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If We Want to Grow as a Nation, We Must Invest More in Education than Incarceration
BlackAmericaWeb.com ^ | December 15, 2006 | Judge Greg Mathis

Posted on 12/17/2006 6:32:35 AM PST by wintertime

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To: wintertime
Image hosted by Photobucket.com till they QUIT saying "you trying to be white???" to those that TRY/WANT to learn... money means nothing.
41 posted on 12/17/2006 7:16:06 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The well-known fact everyone is too afraid to say is:

Many inner city kids JUST DON'T GIVE A SH** ABOUT EDUCATION. No amount of money or special "program" will force a kid to learn who doesn't care to learn. And that is 95% of the time because the parents of said kid never instilled proper values in that kid.


42 posted on 12/17/2006 7:16:15 AM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: wintertime
We Must Invest More in Education than Incarceration

Ok. Quit committing crimes. That's the fix. It's simple.

43 posted on 12/17/2006 7:16:36 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: Mustard Plaster
Students fail because teachers don't teach.

Sometimes they fail because they don't come to school. Sometimes they fail because they don't do their work even if they come to school.

Failing students are promoted because it would hurt their self esteem to hold them back.

Sometimes failing students are promoted because administrators don't let the teachers hold students back, because they'd have to build more classrooms to hold them, hire more teachers to teach them, and they don't want older students in with the more innocent younger children.

44 posted on 12/17/2006 7:20:15 AM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: Mustard Plaster

Students fail because they care more about pimpin' hos, smokin' weed, partyin' and the new 50-Cent CD than anything else. If a kid doesn't want to learn, they won't, no matter how good a teacher is. The reason? Parents. Parents who themselves are uneducated, or otherwise inadequate, that don't instill proper values in the kid.


45 posted on 12/17/2006 7:20:15 AM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: CBart95
Utter rubbish. a fools breakfast.

What is?

46 posted on 12/17/2006 7:20:20 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: wgflyer
every prison I have been in has made it a requirement to get a GED and even then many resist it because it infringes on their rights to be lazy.
47 posted on 12/17/2006 7:22:39 AM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: wintertime

No farther at home = crime.A black problem.


48 posted on 12/17/2006 7:23:42 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: RockinRight
Students fail because they care more about pimpin' hos, smokin' weed, partyin' and the new 50-Cent CD than anything else. If a kid doesn't want to learn, they won't, no matter how good a teacher is. The reason? Parents. Parents who themselves are uneducated, or otherwise inadequate, that don't instill proper values in the kid.

That's the problem root problem. Money will only get misused. The more we pour into the inner city schools the worst they get.

49 posted on 12/17/2006 7:25:32 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You're right; the article is so full of logical fallacies and inconsistencies, one does not know where to begin to start.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Logical fallacies, indeed!

This man is supposed to be judge ruling on law? Scary!


50 posted on 12/17/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: wintertime
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mathis#Joining_Detroit.27s_Political_Machine

EARLY LIFE
"Mathis was born in Detroit, the fourth of four boys born to Alice Mathis, a devoted Seventh-day Adventist, nurses aide, housekeeper and single mother. Mathis was both victim and beneficiary of the rich mix of African-American culture found in Detroit during the turbulent times of the 1960s and 1970s. He took inspiration from his older brothers and quickly learned to steal, cheat and lie to get what many young men in Detroit wanted: property, reputations, and female affection. But his mother's deep devotion to church and community rescued her son from total destruction, something many of his peers could not escape. From shooting at the Detroit Police from their housing project, to purse snatching in the white suburbs, to using and selling drugs, including heroin, his early life showed little promise, except for his mother's concern and tough love."
(Home Town Boy makes Good!)

THE JUDGE IS IN
"Mathis worked hard to win the judgeship in the city of Detroit. He had many obstacles to overcome. He had failed the Michigan bar exam once, and had been denied a license to practice law for several years after graduating from law school because of his criminal past. He had not accrued an extensive portfolio of legal work, and he was seen by the establishment as someone who lacked the necessary experience and insight to handle the hectic and heavy docket. Yet in 1995, he was elected a superior court judge for Michigan's 36th District, making him the youngest man in the state to hold the post. During the five years he was on the bench, he was rated in the top five of all judges in the 36th District; there are about thirty judges each year."

For more on his efforts for Jesse Jettison, see the address above

Another darkness emitting light bulb!
51 posted on 12/17/2006 7:29:15 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: muawiyah

Ronnie White is a judge too. He doesn't get it either, and Bill Clinton wanted to appoint him to the Federal bench.


52 posted on 12/17/2006 7:31:08 AM PST by steve8714 (Isn't Israel a sovereign nation?)
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To: wintertime
To use the word "invest" shows just how much education needs to improve. A person can "invest" in his own education. When he does, he is spending his own financial resources (whether he already has the money or is borrowing on his own name and credit), and he is fully directing where he will spend his own money, when and for exactly what course of study.

When he is taxed (at the point of a gun), to pay for the education of someone else, it is only just that, a tax. This is even more true since the tax system goes to great lengths to deny the taxpayer the ability to influence how the money gets spent, on what, for whom and even how wisely the tax money is to be spent. Worse, when those bureaucrats who are employed to spend the money do so in ways that insult the values of the citizens who paid the tax, the citizen is expected to pay even more, for there is never enough!

As our average per pupil expense in the public school system creeps towards a stunning $10,000 per year, and as the system continues dumbing down in order to keep test scores from cratering, the taxpayer is further denied the ability to even suggest that alternatives must be found.

The same people who demand that taxpayers "invest more", in large measure cheer the recent release of the Iraq Study Groups' report that declared the President must change course in Iraq because his strategy as failed. The education establishment has successfully insulated itself from reports of similar failure in their own realm, and only have nasty things to say about anyone who begs for the opportunity to test other ways to structure and pay for education, especially if it mentions the word "vouchers".
53 posted on 12/17/2006 7:31:19 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: wintertime
If We Want to Grow as a Nation, We Must Invest More in Education than Incarceration

Wouldn't we be better off if we stopped crime first?

54 posted on 12/17/2006 7:38:33 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: wintertime

"In 1977, I was incarcerated for seven months." In other words, he made a stupid decision that got him there.

"I was told that it cost taxpayers $30,000 to incarcerate me." If this was a violent crime, that was money well spent.

"A year later, I enrolled at Eastern Michigan University under an affirmative action program. Because I was poor, I had to use loans and tax-payer supported government grants to pay for my education. The cost of my four-year education was $24,000, less than the cost of my short jail sentence." He had seven months in jail to figure out that a life of crime was not that great. Although the taxpayer had to foot the bill for his bad decision, he eventually made the right choice.

Bottom line: He chose to commit a crime and go to jail; then he chose to become a good citizen. It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of choice. But liberals rarely recognize that people (other than their own, glorious, self-righteous selves) have the abilty to choose. So the unwashed masses cannot really be blamed for where they end up.


55 posted on 12/17/2006 7:39:16 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: wintertime
Ending the war on drugs will.

So allowing people to lay around get high and make unwanted babies. Is going to make high achievers?? LOL

56 posted on 12/17/2006 7:40:55 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: wintertime

It's these stupid liberal poverty programs & federal spending. They created all of this that Mathis is now crying about.


57 posted on 12/17/2006 7:45:39 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: wintertime
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Wintertime,


Want to save money on Prison Incarceration ?


Empty Death Row vis-a-via massive (swift) executions.


Patton-at-Bastogne

"May God and His Angels Guard Your Sacred Throne, and May You Long Become It."

Shakespeare, Henry V, Act I, Scene II


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58 posted on 12/17/2006 7:48:06 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Christmas & New Years are the worst seasons to contemplate our lost "Field of Dreams" ...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's these stupid liberal poverty programs & federal spending. They created all of this that Mathis is now crying about.

Actually, people have been worrying about children in the inner cities not learning, as well as crime and poverty in the inner cities, for at least 150 years in this country. Of course, 150 years ago, they were more worried about Irish immigrants than black people....

59 posted on 12/17/2006 7:50:31 AM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: wintertime

"If We Want to Grow as a Nation, We Must Invest More in Education than Incarceration"

Ah! Would that we lived in such a world that we could do that! If everyone behaved themselves, we could pull all the money out of prison creation and maintenance and invest it in education.

Unfortunately, The heart is deceitful above all, and desperately wicked! Don't tear down the prisons yet.


60 posted on 12/17/2006 8:03:34 AM PST by RoadTest (Both manifestations of The Word Of God are alive and powerful.)
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