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American Family Association – Tupelo, MS 38803

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1 posted on 11/09/2006 11:55:11 AM PST by NYer
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So basically, 5% of the purchases made from Wal-Mart made via the homosexual's website will go back to that website. So 5% of homosexuals money will go back to thier organization?

What's the problem? Or are you planning on shopping at Wal-Mart FROM the homosexual org's website?

Get over it.


49 posted on 11/09/2006 1:13:39 PM PST by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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Thanks to this thread, I'll forever look at the AFA with a healthy dose of skepticism.


52 posted on 11/09/2006 1:32:41 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Sorry, I'm not doing that, that's just ridiculous.


54 posted on 11/09/2006 2:52:59 PM PST by Mazda3Fan
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The cash donation will come from ALL online purchases made at Wal-Mart through the homosexual group's Web site.

** Well I say the answer to this is to not buy through that website.


64 posted on 11/09/2006 5:00:13 PM PST by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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Just noticed - this is on "bloggers and personal"??? Did it start off that way or did they change it? Since when is the AFA website a blog?


75 posted on 11/09/2006 6:01:16 PM PST by little jeremiah
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Walmart hasn't learn not to feed the sharks yet.


91 posted on 11/10/2006 4:33:44 AM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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This has been discussed: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735667/posts


And I will now say that AFA at least takes a stand against what they don't like.

At least half of people here gripe about anyone that "attacks" Wal-Mart (or just about any business), but this is not your usual liberal rant about WM not being communist enough.

I myself don't quite mind about this. I look at the overall picture, just like politics. Not every place is perfect, just like not every politician is perfect. But if overall they're OK, I'll support them - or not, as I'm just plain not a Wal-Mart kind of person. Although I do go when I need to.

I am a member of AFA. Sometimes they seem a little extreme, but really, it's great that they are a clearing house for problems in workplaces and gov and entertainment. You'll find out things you never knew (and yes, they're true). E.g., I found out long before pretty much anyone else that the real symbol of gay solidarity is an upside-down pink triangle on purple - and lo and behold, I start seeing it on cars, subtle as if it was a special parking permit.


95 posted on 11/10/2006 5:42:56 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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I think this is a great article. The AFA seems to fit this description quite well. From The Church and Culture - Never Give Up!

An article by Stan Guthrie in Christianity Today recently juxtaposed the positions of the culture war nicely. You can either concern yourselves with individuals or concern yourself with the broader culture.

Or both.

The latter is the only real option for the Christian. Some, weary of the fecklessness of political solutions, are converting to an "act locally" style of compassionate outreach in their neighborhoods. Still others have launched an all-out attempt to win back the culture, forgetting about personal involvement at a practical, local level. Both of these approaches, of course, are deficient for believers seeking to be "salt and the light" as Jesus commanded.

Guthrie notes recent opinions shared in CT: Frederica Mathewes-Green says,

"God has not called us to change the weather. Our primary task as believers, and our best hope for lasting success, is to care for individuals caught up in the pounding storm."

Others, like Philip Yancey, fret about

"...how tempting it can be -- and how distracting from our primary mission -- to devote so many efforts to rehabilitating society at large, especially when these efforts demonize the opposition. (After all, neither Jesus nor Paul showed much concern about cleaning up the degenerate Roman Empire.)"

Thankfully, Guthrie keeps quoting. And he uses former CT editor Carl Henry to provide perspective: "... in his classic book, The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism [Henry said that] 'The battle against evil in all its forms must be pressed unsparingly,' Henry said. '[W]e must pursue the enemy in politics, in economics, in science, in ethics -- everywhere, in every field, we must pursue relentlessly.'"

Everywhere, in every field. That is the "where" of the calling of Christ on our lives. C.S. Lewis also added the "when" factor: "There is no neutral ground in the universe; every square inch, every split second, is claimed by God and counter-claimed by Satan."

We dare not give up to the influence of hell the definition of the family, or abortion arguments; the intelligent design conflict, the battles of political and religious freedom around the world, or the appropriate response to the poor, sick, aged. We also dare not give up on evangelistic and compassionate ministry to the very people we have opportunity to touch on a daily basis. Both emphases are essential for the believer.

John Stott once said that there are only two possible positions Christians could embrace towards the world: Escape and Engagement. "'Escape' means turning our backs on the world in rejection, washing our hands of it.. ... and steeling our hearts against its agonized cries for help. In contrast, 'engagement' means turning our faces towards the world in compassion, getting our hands dirty, sore and worn in its service, and feeling deep within us the stirring of the love of which cannot be contained."

This "engagement" takes many forms, of course. The dirt underneath our fingernails must be the grime of politics as well as the muck of the inner city. This writer has done enough reading of both Mathewes-Green and Yancey to know that they believe in engagement. The argument is, apparently, at what level -- cultural or individual, larger or smaller, the perplexing issues or the simple ones, political or personal.

The answer seems obvious in any fair appraisal of Scripture: both ends of these continuums, and everything in between.

116 posted on 11/10/2006 11:05:41 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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This whole thread is rather deceiving. Any service group or other charity can probably get the same 5% donation from Wal Mart by simply applying to have a link on their web site.

I don't think Wal Mart especially cares what the service group or charity is advocating, as long as they get the links.

I know of a lot of other businesses that provide a percentage of sales from links on web sites. This kind of scare tactic by AFA is the kind that will backfire. Wal Mart simply is allowing this group to link to it's online sales and giving them a commission. I suspect that a lot of Catholic Charities are getting the same deal.

139 posted on 11/10/2006 3:29:39 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Prices falling in the store, pants falling in the restrooms...


148 posted on 11/10/2006 4:17:12 PM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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