Posted on 11/09/2006 11:55:09 AM PST by NYer
"I'm on a conservative/religious forum, arguing about the dangers of the agenda."
That doesn't include me or many others on this thread, we are saying that the group that wrote the article lacks character because of the misleading way they headlined and wrote the article.
Just go through the thread again and look at all the time and effort that is spent trying to make clear what the article was really saying. The organization wasn't just sloppy, they deliberately tried to give the impression that,
"Wal-Mart Contributes 5% Of Online Sales To Homosexual Group"
Your assumptions about me gives me many chuckles.
Misleading press releases are misleading press releases and the headline of such press release is part of the press release.....if one part is misleading, so is the other part. That you refuse to acknowlege that fact is your problem and not mine.
I will continue to run my own business in an aboveboard factual manner, that other businesses choose to do otherwise is not my businesss, other than to call them on their misleading tactics.
Your support of the misleading tacticws of AFA tells me all I need to know about your business ethics and thus I am not interested in a continuation of a dialogue with you.
Actually it appears AFA thinks it's better to support materialistic and consumeristic attitudes than it does family values. AFA appears to me to be the ones eroding our culture by not promoting TRUE family values, just promoting spending money with companies they approve of.
Hypocrites.
I promote non-materialistic, non-consumerism family values. AFA supports companies that promote materialism and consumerism, which are far more detrimental to our culture than some organization f=very few people had ever heard of before AFA gave them all kinds of free publicity.
I can only go from what you've said in the threads, and in this thread you said you spent time in the industry and in another thread you said you were a stay-at-home mom.
Misleading press releases are misleading press releases and the headline of such press release is part of the press release.....if one part is misleading, so is the other part. That you refuse to acknowlege that fact is your problem and not mine
You're back pedaling. Post 130 demonstrates you are being inconsistent. In that post you were agreeing with somebody else about the body of the article, not the headline. That's why I keep talking about being consistent.
I will continue to run my own business in an aboveboard factual manner, that other businesses choose to do otherwise is not my businesss, other than to call them on their misleading tactics.
What you really need to get over is that headlines are headlines, Gabz.
Your support of the misleading tacticws of AFA tells me all I need to know about your business ethics and thus I am not interested in a continuation of a dialogue with you.
Nah, this bigot (per you) just wasn't born yesterday, as you seem to have been with your statements about headlines.
So now I'm a bigot and the AFA are hypocrites because we don't see eye-to-eye with you. It's too bad everybody isn't a Gabz clone, I suppose.
Thank you........that is the point I have been trying to make on this and several other threads, but the point is not getting across.
AFA has done more to promote the particular website they claim to be against than any promotion that group could have done for themselves. AFA is providing them with major, major free publicity. But the AFA supporters refuse to see that basic fact of life.
I don't think Wal Mart especially cares what the service group or charity is advocating, as long as they get the links.
I don't know of anybody who disagrees with a retailer looking for more business. It's what their percentage is funding that's the issue.
As xzins said here:
Why should 5% of sales go to gay advocacy? Give me one good reason.As I see it, that's the real issue. But it's not just a gay advocacy, it's the Washington DC Center for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender People organization that is getting the 5%.
Prices falling in the store, pants falling in the restrooms...
That particular organization is simply getting a 5% kickback on all sales that are generated through the D.C. GLBT webite. (Visa and Mastercard get a 4% kickback on every item purchased with a visa or mastercard).
IOW these kickbacks probably amount to about $100 a year. I don't know any gay person who shops at Wal Mart (or who would admit to it).
You claimed that you are in the business and I am not and I commented upon your assumptions causing me giggles. Being a SAHM does not mean I do not have anything else to do but bake cookies.
I have spent time in the industry, 20+ years. I am a stay-at-home-mom, and have been for over 8 years. Self employment permits such things. Again, you made assumptions about me that have now backfired on you.
What you, scripter, need to get over is that AFA mucked up on this one and your blind defense of them is less than convincing. I know how to write a press release and the appropriate accompanying headline, AFA needs to find someone capable of doing the same.
AFA blew their own credibility with a headline that did not agree with the body of the statment. They then further blew their credibility by focusing on only one company out of 1000s that use the same affiliate program.
You blew your credibility by attempting to make this about me and not the wrong committed by AFA.
Bada Bing!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately tunnel vision prohibits thes types (AFA and their supporters) from seeing this truth.
Visa and Mastercard don't get 4%, at least not in anything I've done. But as I see it, it doesn't matter the amount of money, it's money going to an organization that supports causes social conservatives and Christians don't support. Causes that help to erode our culture. Causes that definitely disagree with the reason for why we gather here at FR.
You just said:
I am not interested in a continuation of a dialogue with you.You're funny because you think that because I inferred incorrectly, that somehow it backfired on me. You're inconsistent because you say one thing and then contradict yourself, over and over.
AFA blew their own credibility with a headline that did not agree with the body of the statment.
Whoops. Not only are you wrong about the above, but now you're talking about the body of the statement again. See what I mean about being consistent.
Please try to be consistent.
Besides that, Walmart would generally pay 5% of what they get after Visa and Mastercard first take their cut.
Nobody is making anyone shop at Wal mart. If people want to participate in these AFA boycotts, then fine, do it. I find them to be counterproductive for the most part. In many ways it the the boycotts themselves that make Christians seem intolerant of gays and gives them the idea that we as christians are not willing to give to homosexuals the same rights and priviledges enjoyed by other perverts and sinners.
Each of us has to make a decision as to what we ought to do in this situation. While I don't normally shop at Wal Mart, the fact that they give $25,000 out of their net proceeds of over a trillion dollars really doesn't overcome the fact that if I save $100 on a shopping cart full of goods, that will give me an extra $100 to use to feed my family and support my church, etc.
Wal Mart has always been "Christian Friendly". They sell Christian books. They sell American flags. They employ a lot of Christians. They often play Christian music on their music systems. I just don't think I'm going to blow a gasket over this one. I've got bigger fish to fry.
I've followed issues with Walmart for awhile. I think it was last year they wouldn't say "Merry Christmas" and would instead say "Happy Holidays", but now they say they've learned from the boycott and are back to saying "Merry Christmas."
Regarding employment, two Christian Walmart employees have been in the news lately saying they can no longer work for Walmart due to Walmarts ties to homosexual organizations and their ever expanding homosexual friendly business.
From what I understand, Sam Walton would have had none of it.
Please try to mind your own buinsess.
Speak for your own damned self and not others....DO NOT tell me what I support or why I gather at FR.
I thought we were actually having a good conversation even though we basically disagree about the deception used by AFA, but after this particular post of yours, I'm done with you.
Well that's what happens when your family business goes public.
Carl Karcher was booted out of his own company because of his public support for pro-life causes. He sold too much of the family stock and suddenly he finds himself on the outs.
As far as boycotting wal mart, if every solid Christian on the planet boycotted Wal Mart, that would just free up the good parking spaces for the heathen.
During the AFA/SBC boycott of Disneyland, our Church rented the whole park one evening for a crusade. It was awesome. The park was supposed to close at 5pm and then reopen at 6pm for the "private party", but we invited everyone who had purchased a ticket that day to stay till midnight with our church. We had Christian groups and pastors preaching the gospel at every entertainment venue. It was an awesome night. Lots of gospel preaching, lots of people being saved. It was a night I will never forget. I'm sure glad we didn't participate in that boycott.
You really are funny. And with what you said in post 142 you're being inconsistent yet again. If you're going to be inconsistent with me then it is my business. If you don't want me pointing out your inconsistency then remain consistent.
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