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The Real Estate Bust Continues
American Chronicle ^ | 10/26/2006 | Alex S. Gabor

Posted on 11/01/2006 9:15:08 AM PST by ex-Texan

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I continue to predict that the current bust will be the biggest loss in dollar terms in the history of this planet. Billions in coming losses are no longer a realistic estimate but rather we are talking trillions, perhaps by as much as five trillion being wiped out of the rather bloated false $20 trillion in equity in real estate across a broad spectrum of residential and commercial properties in the United States."

Funny how this real estate writer sounds familiar. For those in the know, he sounds just like Dave Ramsey. It you are a regular listener to Ramsey's Daily radio broadcast, you know that he preaches careful financial investment. Last week he was getting hoarse telling people not to try to get rich flipping houses.

If you want to learn more about the bursting real estate bubble click here. Or visit my FR Page For all the realtors and mortgage brokers out there, I suggest you just crawl back into bed. The situation will get a lot worse before it gets any better. For "naysayers" out there I reiterate some of your favorite mantras: "Nothing to see here. Not in my neck of the woods. Time to move on."

1 posted on 11/01/2006 9:15:11 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

bttt


2 posted on 11/01/2006 9:16:44 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: GodGunsGuts; M. Espinola; Hydroshock; Calpernia

*Ping*!


3 posted on 11/01/2006 9:17:52 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

Repeat a LIE often enough and it will becomes true...Is that the socialist scheme here!??? hmmm


4 posted on 11/01/2006 9:19:29 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (In Prisons Tattletales Are the Same as Child-Molesters...hmm)
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To: ex-Texan

Goody, Goody, Goody. A couple of more months, maybe my wife gets the raise she's going for, I'll be able to afford a Palace on The Potomac. Something near Mt. Vernon where all the trees have turned beautiful colors this time of year....


5 posted on 11/01/2006 9:19:54 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Democrats; The Evil of Two Lessors.)
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To: ex-Texan
Some thoughts:

1. All real estate is local. Many markets are overvalued and will decline but many are still increasing

2. Long term - The American population is still growing. We will have another 100 million within 25 years. They will want housing

3. Banks are making loans they never used to due to the packaging and selling of mortgages (including sub-prime) on the market due to Fanny Mae. This has to stop.

6 posted on 11/01/2006 9:20:20 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

This is the truth. What is your agenda?


7 posted on 11/01/2006 9:26:02 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: ex-Texan

It would be nice if this were true, because I am buying soon, but it isn't.


8 posted on 11/01/2006 9:28:07 AM PST by Toby06 (Happy camper.)
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To: Hydroshock

Most of us just wonder why you and your buddy ex-Texan (if that is not just another FR name of yours) keep posting these articles. You seem to take a perverse pleasure in every sign that there is a real estate crash on the way. Why is that?


9 posted on 11/01/2006 9:36:07 AM PST by Fairview
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To: 2banana
1. All real estate is local.

The MBS credit market which created the bubble is global.

2. Long term - The American population is still growing.

Only if you count immigration, much of it illegal.

Banks are making loans they never used to due to the packaging and selling of mortgages (including sub-prime) on the market due to Fanny Mae. This has to stop.

Fannie has been incapable of generating a credible financial statement for over 5 years. They have trillions in highly leveraged debt and derivatives which permeate every major money center bank, most small banks and money market funds. This problem is literally orders of magnitude larger than the S&L crisis.

10 posted on 11/01/2006 9:37:41 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Toby06

It's not true on my street. Our values are up about 20% in 3 years, which is not exactly rocket acceleration, but beats a hole in the head, for sure.


11 posted on 11/01/2006 9:43:07 AM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: 2banana

"3. Banks are making loans they never used to due to the packaging and selling of mortgages (including sub-prime) on the market due to Fanny Mae. This has to stop."

This has been this way since the early 1980's.
Kind of a fundamantal piece of our financial system. And it's Fannie Mae...


12 posted on 11/01/2006 9:46:08 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Fairview
Most of us just wonder why you and your buddy ex-Texan (if that is not just another FR name of yours) keep posting these articles. You seem to take a perverse pleasure in every sign that there is a real estate crash on the way. Why is that?

They are liberal schmucks. Doom & Gloom types trying to slap the "Bush economy" in the face. Try carrying on an intellignet debate with hydroshock and you'll go running for a fan of the Barney the Purple Dinosaur for some intelligent conversation.

13 posted on 11/01/2006 9:47:52 AM PST by Toby06 (Happy camper.)
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Tech stocks took a similar correction. Not every tech stock suffered. Those that had no value went in the toilet. Those that were overvalued took a slap down.

People still need technology, and people still need a place to live.

Here's something else to consider: if we hadn't aborted 40 million unborn little ones, how would market demand fair today for both stocks and real estate?

Markets never like the hard sell or hustle. People only get hurt from the quick sell.

Luke 12:

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Then he said to the crowd, "Take care to guard against all greed, for though one may be rich, one's life does not consist of possessions."
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Then he told them a parable. "There was a rich man whose land produced a bountiful harvest.
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He asked himself, 'What shall I do, for I do not have space to store my harvest?'
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And he said, 'This is what I shall do: I shall tear down my barns and build larger ones. There I shall store all my grain and other goods
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and I shall say to myself, "Now as for you, you have so many good things stored up for many years, rest, eat, drink, be merry!"
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But God said to him, 'You fool, this night your life will be demanded of you; and the things you have prepared, to whom will they belong?'
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Thus will it be for the one who stores up treasure for himself but is not rich in what matters to God." 7
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He said to (his) disciples, "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life and what you will eat, or about your body and what you will wear.
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For life is more than food and the body more than clothing.
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Notice the ravens: they do not sow or reap; they have neither storehouse nor barn, yet God feeds them. How much more important are you than birds!
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Can any of you by worrying add a moment to your lifespan?
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If even the smallest things are beyond your control, why are you anxious about the rest?
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Notice how the flowers grow. They do not toil or spin. But I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of them.
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If God so clothes the grass in the field that grows today and is thrown into the oven tomorrow, will he not much more provide for you, O you of little faith?
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As for you, do not seek what you are to eat and what you are to drink, and do not worry anymore.
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All the nations of the world seek for these things, and your Father knows that you need them.
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Instead, seek his kingdom, and these other things will be given you besides.
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Do not be afraid any longer, little flock, for your Father is pleased to give you the kingdom.
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Sell your belongings and give alms. Provide money bags for yourselves that do not wear out, an inexhaustible treasure in heaven that no thief can reach nor moth destroy.
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For where your treasure is, there also will your heart be.
14 posted on 11/01/2006 9:50:17 AM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: ex-Texan
"Pretty soon, being a billionaire won’t mean much any more, just like being a millionaire means you are now part of the lower middle class."

Decided the author was pretty a dumass about here.

The real estate market may take a down turn, but with the drop in mortgage rates over the Summer anyone who was staring at an impending ARM reset and didn't take out a fixed rate mortgage pretty much is going to get what they deserve.
15 posted on 11/01/2006 10:07:43 AM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: SaltyJoe

I lived through a major bubble burst in New England in the 80's when home values dropped by as much as 50+ percent. I was actually pretty lucky, I bought my house in December of 1984 and closed on it in february of 1985. by the time we had closed on it the value had already gone up $50 thousand dollars. When we sold it 14 years later it went for that same $50k profit we made in the first 2 months. Some of my coworkers who bought in 1985-86 saw their home values plummet. One buddy paid $135k for a condo and finally declared bankruptcy when it was assessed at $50k. Another paid $280k for a condo and the price dropped to about $170 for the rest of the units but he and his wife rode it out. Cape Cod took a massive hit. But there was a silver lining in the cloud. For each family that lost big time there was another family, one that had been saving up because they were priced out of the market, that now had a home they could afford. So the trillions won't dissapear they will be moved around because unlike stocks which can only be used for toilet paper when they become worthless people can still live in houses, business can still move into office space. It happens and frankly I'm in a position to buy and wouldn't mind cashing in on someone elses misery.


16 posted on 11/01/2006 10:07:50 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Tax-chick
Alex S. Gabor is a freelance writer living in Hollywood. He spent 25 years investigating the mortgage banking industry and is the inventor of zero interest mortgages

He's a genuine real expert, he took a bunch of half truths and DU doom and gloom socialist-onomics to prove some sort of point. These threads are as dumb as the evolution and 100 per barrel oil threads. Facts are.

1. "Prices overall are down". What the writer didn’t say is MOST markets are still appreciating while some seriously overvalued markets like So. Fl, So Ca and some areas of the NE have dropped a bit. What he left out was that sales have actually increased. Let me repeat that. SALES HAVE INCREASED.

2. There has been no systemic, epidemic and widespread foreclosures. The local mullet wrapper the Palm Beach Post takes joy in spreading this lie. Headline PB Post "Foreclosures up 85%". What the local socialists don't tel you is the number of foreclosures went from 1200 to 2400. So going from .03 percent of mortgages held to .035% of mortgages that go into foreclosure is a real crisis. Made those millions yet Carlton Sheets lemmings?

3. Interest rates have not skyrocketed like some of the HOLD GOLD loonies have speculated. In fact rates maybe poised for another drop in the Spring.

4. The S&L crisis was created by changes to the tax laws which instantly created worthless investment portfolios. Look of the facts before some spout some ignorant Democratic clichés.

Someone quoted Dave Ramsey before. I used to like Dave and actually liked some of his common sense principles but Dave's a certified idiot speaking on things he knows little about. Going broke in real estate, being a reformed whore monger and having a down home East Tenn. accent does not make you wise. Waiting around for a 15 year mortgage and 20% down payment and you will living in a rental for 20 years. Any guy who guests on Oprah can't be taken seriously. Cut up your credit cards and use cash but the rest of his Dave-isms ignore them.

17 posted on 11/01/2006 10:08:09 AM PST by lwg8tr
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Alex S. Gabor is a big fan of George Soros. Perhaps exTexan is also.

http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/833140.shtml


18 posted on 11/01/2006 10:16:18 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (..ON 11/7, YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR WITH THE TERRORISTS..)
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The goldbugs, gloomwhores and leftists badmouthing the economy are all in bed with Soros, either directly or figuratively.

They march under the same banner.


19 posted on 11/01/2006 10:17:53 AM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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The real estate market continues to go bust as I had predicted in my first major article on the subject in December of 2005.

What a slacker. You posted predictions of a bust at least 2 years before this guy.

20 posted on 11/01/2006 10:17:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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