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Minuteman Civil Defense Project President Chris Simcox Answers Critics
Minuteman Civil Defense Project Mass Email | 14 July 2006 | Chris Simcox

Posted on 07/14/2006 9:00:33 PM PDT by Spiff

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To: Amelia
Then I would suggest giving the Minutemen, just a bunch of average folks like you and me, a break. They are trying the best they can, as civilians, to bring attention to our government's lapse border security. And on that they are succeeding.

The Simcox fence idea was obviously meant to highlight the need for the federal government to protect our borders. If the Minutemen could succeed in building an adequate fence themselves, that would be beyond anyone's expectations. Supporters of the project know it's more of a PR call than anything, to get the government to act. No one expects a few civilians to be able to pull of what only the federal government can do: protect our borders from invasion.

Remember, that was the point of the Minutemen Project, et al, in the first place: to get the attention of our leaders.

Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist are an inspiring American success story of grassroots activism. They reminded us what we average folks can do to pressure government when it has failed in its role. They're just regular guys up against an enormous political machine, and they deserve our support.

It is the President of the United States and our liberal Senate, not a couple of guys like these, who should be feeling our heat. There really is no time to waste.

201 posted on 07/16/2006 10:26:51 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: onyx
I had never heard of the poster, so you attack the now banned poster, but cannot refute his posted information!

A) You were all over their antifreeper lies like flies on the manure pile. You obviously, from your own posts, not only agreed with the content, you agreed with the tactic.

B) There was nothing to refute. You, as usual, simply insinuate that there was. Insinuation is sufficient for folks like you who are trying to smear people.

202 posted on 07/16/2006 10:27:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Amelia; Howlin; EternalVigilance



It seems EV supports Simcox and is trying desperately to defend Simcox's lack of accountability, yet, EV who usues a whole lot of bandwidth here, doesn't appear on any on the donors to FR lists.


203 posted on 07/16/2006 10:28:22 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Gelato

lapse = lax


204 posted on 07/16/2006 10:28:35 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: EternalVigilance

hmmmmm,

Cal, you can't disguise your writing style, vocabulary, punctuation, etc.

hmmmmm.


205 posted on 07/16/2006 10:29:12 AM PDT by Cai Della
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To: Cai Della

LOL...

You have no idea what you are talking about.


206 posted on 07/16/2006 10:30:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
It is as plain as the nose on your face that you were working closely with the just-banned troll to publish antifreeper lies here on FR.

What about the now-pulled post #152, which relied almost totally on the FEC website? It did mention a rumor the poster said he didn't believe.

207 posted on 07/16/2006 10:31:01 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: onyx
It seems EV supports Simcox and is trying desperately to defend Simcox's lack of accountability, yet, EV who usues a whole lot of bandwidth here, doesn't appear on any on the donors to FR lists.

You really are desperate, aren't you.

You're acting like a Clown.

208 posted on 07/16/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Amelia
It did mention a rumor the poster said he didn't believe.

So, your willingness to post about it would indicate what? That you're worse than a troll?

209 posted on 07/16/2006 10:35:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You're just too easy!


210 posted on 07/16/2006 10:36:28 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Amelia
What about the now-pulled post #152, which relied almost totally on the FEC website?

Your inability to accurately or honestly interpret FEC data is well known.

211 posted on 07/16/2006 10:37:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: onyx
You're just too easy!

You're just too transparent. Hatred is eating you up.

212 posted on 07/16/2006 10:38:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Wrong again.


213 posted on 07/16/2006 10:39:56 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: EternalVigilance; Amelia

Perhaps then you can help us interpret the FEC data. Tell us where we are going wrong


214 posted on 07/16/2006 10:40:47 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: EternalVigilance
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215 posted on 07/16/2006 10:41:07 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Gelato
Then I would suggest giving the Minutemen, just a bunch of average folks like you and me, a break. They are trying the best they can, as civilians, to bring attention to our government's lapse border security. And on that they are succeeding.

I have nothing against the Minutemen themselves. In fact, I support that mission.

Actually until these threads started, I didn't realize there were several Minutemen groups. I thought there was only one.

If the Minutemen could succeed in building an adequate fence themselves, that would be beyond anyone's expectations.

So you agree that Simcox's minutemen group doesn't plan to build a fence, it's all symbolic?

I really have trouble with the idea of them raising money "to build the fence" when they have no intention of doing so.

If they aren't going to build it, SAY they are spending the money to build bunkhouses for the volunteers or buy night vision equipment or whatever else they need to do. The misrepresentation is what bothers me.

I'm not real crazy about the high percentage of funds going to overhead rather than accomplishments in Simcox's parent organization either. It's of course impossible so far to see if the same pattern is followed with Simcox, but early signs aren't good.

It is the President of the United States and our liberal Senate, not a couple of guys like these, who should be feeling our heat. There really is no time to waste.

I agree with that, too, and have been trying to do my part to pressure my elected officials and let them know where I stand. You notice Georgia is currently on the forefront as far as laws against illegals go?

216 posted on 07/16/2006 10:45:14 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You have no idea what you are talking about.

hmmmmmm, a typical comeback by you, Cal.

PAGT

217 posted on 07/16/2006 10:48:33 AM PDT by Cai Della
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To: EternalVigilance
You have no idea what you are talking about.

hmmmmmm, a typical comeback by you, Cal.

PAGT

218 posted on 07/16/2006 10:54:00 AM PDT by Cai Della
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To: EternalVigilance
So, your willingness to post about it would indicate what? That you're worse than a troll?

It would indicate that unlike most of the information in the post, it did not come from the FEC website.

It was not the anti-FReeper information you don't want referred to.

As far as I could tell, it was just a harmless bit of gossip that the poster said was out there but that he didn't give much credibility to. Personally, I wouldn't have included it, but I didn't make the post.

219 posted on 07/16/2006 11:00:18 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Your inability to accurately or honestly interpret FEC data is well known.

By whom?

If it is well known, your inability to explain why I'm wrong is equally as well known. :-)

220 posted on 07/16/2006 11:04:20 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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