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Homosexual Alliance to Attack Marriage
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Posted on 03/25/2006 8:57:39 PM PST by woodb01
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posted on
03/25/2006 8:57:43 PM PST
by
woodb01
To: woodb01
If only the "specter" of legalized gay marriage (oh the horror of it, the horror) were the most trenchant issue facing America today, and its future. Pity that ain't so. If it were, the fruited plain would be a metaphorical Elysian field.
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posted on
03/25/2006 9:05:13 PM PST
by
Torie
To: woodb01
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posted on
03/25/2006 9:07:51 PM PST
by
Eastbound
To: woodb01
The whole reason homosexual "marriage" supporters promote the changing of what marriage IS into something else to to attack and undermine marriage. I'd say that it's 50%. The other 50% is because they want the government to officially sanction their perversion as "normal." If our behavior is endorsed by the law it must be normal, right? Next up, bestiality...
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posted on
03/25/2006 9:32:57 PM PST
by
69ConvertibleFirebird
(Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
To: Torie
The gay agenda is one of the most serious issues facing America today. Yes terrorism is an issue, and yes immigration is an issue. However if we do not maintain ourselves as a just and moral society, what's the point of fighting to prevent our extinction?
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posted on
03/25/2006 9:38:16 PM PST
by
Old_Mil
(http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
To: woodb01
Homosexual Alliance to Attack MarriageThis is fine with me. As long as the Homosexual Alliance doesn't want gays to get married, I'm happy.
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posted on
03/25/2006 11:41:43 PM PST
by
melt
(Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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posted on
03/26/2006 6:18:55 AM PST
by
backinthefold
(Time to set the record straight, the skipping is driving me nuts!)
To: AFA-Michigan; AggieCPA; Agitate; AliVeritas; AllTheRage; An American In Dairyland; Annie03; ...
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posted on
03/26/2006 10:18:53 AM PST
by
DirtyHarryY2K
("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
To: woodb01
Just replace homosexual with negro. This is a battle that has already been lost. Whites and blacks won the right to marry a generation ago and homosexuals will eventually win the same. Keep up the fight, but I foresee a day in my lifetime when FR has the topic "Homosexuals win the right to marry in a stunning 5-4 SCOTUS decision."
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posted on
03/26/2006 10:42:04 AM PST
by
Mephari
To: woodb01
As a short excerpt from a legal brief I coauthored for the Massachusetts Goodridge case, there is a very clear agenda to destroy marriage by those who advance the causes of Socialism. "Destroying marriage, family, and morality are central components of the homosexual and feminist agendas of destroying hegemony as envisioned by the Marxist communist Antonio Gramsci.
The family is something of a model for how one interacts in society once they are an adult. The cardinal assumption embedded in the thinking of Gramsci and others is that hegemony must be destroyed, since families are not capable of providing the model of social interaction. How this works out on the practical level can be seen in examples like the NEA's nearly maniacal opposition to homeschooling and school voucher programs.
Who, then, is to be the guide? I'll leave you to figure that one out.
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posted on
03/26/2006 10:42:53 AM PST
by
Das Outsider
(D.O.'s Discount Monastery: Slightly used and second-hand works of supererogation!)
To: Mephari
Just replace homosexual with negro.
The difference is that it has been firmly established that race is not a preference. There are no ex-blacks; however, there are many ex-gays.
In other words, there's no debate as to whether or not pigment is a choice--unless you're Michael Jackson.
Welcome to FR.
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posted on
03/26/2006 10:50:08 AM PST
by
Das Outsider
(D.O.'s Discount Monastery: Slightly used and second-hand works of supererogation!)
To: Das Outsider
Thanks for the welcome. I've been a long time reader and actually just started posting today. Physics thread finally pushed me over the edge.
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I agree there is a difference. I just don't see it mattering in the long run. Liberalization of marriage is pretty much unavoidable at this point, in my opinion. Once the term homophobe reaches an equal standing as the term racist, gay marriage will not be long off.
Best move now is to try to take away the term homophobe as a powerful word and hope for the best.
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:07:11 AM PST
by
Mephari
To: Mephari
Best move now is to try to take away the term homophobe as a powerful word and hope for the best.
You make a good point. That could be a very effective tactic. Slanted language is indeed very powerful--especially negatively charged terms like 'homophobe,' 'anti-immigant,' and so on.
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:21:10 AM PST
by
Das Outsider
(D.O.'s Discount Monastery: Slightly used and second-hand works of supererogation!)
To: Mephari
I think your'e wrong. Else why do you have most every state placing in their constitution a ban on this crap? I wonder if that's what you hope for. Homophobe? What the hell does that mean anyway?
To: Das Outsider; Mephari
Let's not forget to bounce back the term 'homophobe' with the - actually more relevant - term 'hetrophobe'.
I strongly suspect that many who turn "queer" may have a real and genuine fear of the opposite sex - men who are actually afraid of women, for example.
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:25:23 AM PST
by
the anti-liberal
(Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
To: wequalswinner
"Homophobe? What the hell does that mean anyway?"
Fear of sameness - homogeneity, or maybe just a fear of homogenized milk...?
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:27:06 AM PST
by
the anti-liberal
(Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
To: the anti-liberal
Hilarious. I will say however that I would be more inclined to a phobia against a butchy woman than a girly man. LOL
To: the anti-liberal
Let's not forget to bounce back the term 'homophobe' with the - actually more relevant - term 'hetrophobe'.
Yes. You've probably heard the term "heteronormative," haven't you? It is intended to point out the supposed exclusivism of society, as if marriage could include homosexual marriage, polygamous (or polyandrous) marriage, and so on.
Whoever controls the language controls the terms of the debate.
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:40:58 AM PST
by
Das Outsider
(D.O.'s Discount Monastery: Slightly used and secondhand works of supererogation!)
To: the anti-liberal
Fear of sameness - homogeneity, or maybe just a fear of homogenized milk...?
Homolactophobia is real. Civil rights for all milk!
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:42:24 AM PST
by
Das Outsider
(D.O.'s Discount Monastery: Slightly used and secondhand works of supererogation!)
To: wequalswinner
Homophobe is a strategic word, like Pro-Choice or Pro-Life. It's a great tool for eliciting an emotional response. Racist worked well 40 years ago. Homophobe will be the new racist.
The current tactics for banning gay marriage are short term. We're looking at 20 years tops.
Look at how the incident in Selma cause national movement to give rights to blacks. I doubt anything so polarizing will happen involving gay marriage, but something so drastic isn't really needed. The change can be slow. The current strategy for banning gay marriage plays well to people's emotions and feelings but there needs to be a massive shift in strategy to long term prevention if you want to stop the liberalization of marriage.
Ignoring the history of women's and minority rights, and it's connections with the current anti-gay marriage movement, is dooming the country to the social change this website is against.
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posted on
03/26/2006 11:47:44 AM PST
by
Mephari
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