Compulsory Vaccinations Threaten Religious Freedom

Liberty Counsel ^ | September 2001 | Mathew D. Staver

[Sun]

This is horrendous, and why do they use aborted fetal tissue anyway?

[svcw]

It is not that I do not believe this information but is there anyway to verify the claim.
I just found out that birth control pills not only stop ovulation but if fertilization does occur the pills prevent the fertilized egg from implanting. I was sick when I found this out. Boy, do we need to be careful.

[jess35]

If you don't want to take the vaccines for religious reasons, I don't have a single problem with that. Just don't demand employment, etc.... if the vaccine is a condition imposed by the employer. Freedom is a two way streeet.

[justche]

If company's can't discriminate based on risky sexual behavior; cross dressing freaks; etc -why should they be able to discriminate based on sincerely held religious beliefs?

And why is this in Personal and Bloggers?

[the OlLine Rebel]

"if fertilization does occur the pills prevent the fertilized egg from implanting."


Huh? Unbelievable. If that was the case, then BC pills would be "100% fool-proof" for getting pregnant, per se, not just 99%.

[the OlLine Rebel]

What does accepting that a company won't hire you BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO GET A VACCINE have to do w/discriminating because of religion?

[PeteB570]

I have no problem with people who refuse to get shots because of whatever reason.

I do have a problem with people who refuse to get required vaccinations and then walk around just waiting to become the next "Typhoid Mary".

[svcw]

I know.
What the doctor told me was that the pill was to prevent ovulation but if the egg is fertilized that it was very unlikely that the the fertilize egg would implant.
I was so shocked. My doctor at that time was pro life and told all her patience this information so they could decide for themselves what to do. She said many people did not think it was such a big deal because it was so early and rare.
I actual got pregnant while taking the pill. I grieve to this day and was sickened that there may have been other times that I was pregnant and that the fertilize egg did not implant.
When I found this out I stopped that day taking the pill.

[the OlLine Rebel]

You don't know that you were otherwise pregnant. It's probably a rare chance you'd even be fertilized, much less it not implant. You probably got fertilized + implanted once. The odds are against the other.

[the OlLine Rebel]

That is why they're "required" - to prevent disastrous spreads of contagious diseases. So in a way, those people's rights have infringed on others'.

[jess35]

Sincerely held religious beliefs don't trump the rights of someone else.

[justche]

What right are you speaking about trumping?

[justche]

It appears you're just knocking down any one else's opinion - if it's a sincerely asked question, I'd be happy to discuss that one's belief that abortion is murder, is in fact a sincerely held religious belief. Telling an employee they have to be injected with such material, when there is no proof that it gives immunity, in fact there's much documented proof that it's at best limited if any prevention of diseases is outrageous. A company doesn't have the right to tell you to override that. Take that further - there's a finite amount of influence your company can have on your personal life. Now, if you're just trying to out yell, take care.

[jess35]

Do you have a "right" to work for that employer? Does your "right" override your employers right to set conditions of employment? Do they work for YOU or do you work for them?

[justche]

My rights don't stop at the door of an employer. They pay me to do a job - they don't pay me to run my life - or influence my medical decisions.

[jess35]

Are you under the impression you have a right to a job regardless of any conditions set by your employer?

[Petronski]

...if fertilization does occur the pills prevent the fertilized egg from implanting. I was sick when I found this out.

We're not supposed to know.

[Petronski]

What does accepting that a company won't hire you BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO GET A VACCINE have to do w/discriminating because of religion?

Is this vaccine required by the employer, or required by law? I trust you can see the implications of the latter.