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Hopeful Patriot ^ | 11/29/2005 | Hopeful Patriot

Posted on 11/29/2005 4:16:55 AM PST by WhiteGuy

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Where indeed?
1 posted on 11/29/2005 4:16:55 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: WhiteGuy

I miss Newt.


2 posted on 11/29/2005 4:26:16 AM PST by gondramB
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To: WhiteGuy

They ran away from the idea because the MSM managed to villify Newt and the "contract on America".


3 posted on 11/29/2005 5:04:48 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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So, you blame the media.

Interesting.


Isn't it possible that most of the leaders we all worked so hard to elect were simply the same type of hypocritical, greedy, lying, politicians that were in power prior to 1995? (except with am "R" following their name?)


4 posted on 11/29/2005 7:10:03 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: WhiteGuy
Part of the problem with Newt's Contract was that Newt was the one who tried to apply it. Tactically (i.e., as an election tool) it was brilliant, but strategically it was hopeless because it played right into the strengths of the left and the MSM.

Not to mention that Gingrich was hopelessly outclassed as a politician by Bill Clinton, who rolled him every damned time. And it certainly didn't help matters that there is very little, morally, to distinguish between them. Newt crapped the bed, plain and simple.

The real problem is that conservatives are prone to thinking they're playing by the same rules as those on the left, when in fact the left is often playing an entirely different game.

Further, conservatives are impatient: they look for The Big Fix, and they refuse to accept incremental gains. The problem is simply that conservatives are ignorant of the real game being played, and too impatient to learn it.

5 posted on 11/29/2005 7:22:58 AM PST by r9etb
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"They ran away from the idea because the MSM managed to villify Newt and the "contract with America".

This is certainly a possible explanation and probably has merit as it applies to Newt. But this explanation does not hold water when it is applied to the Republicans. Republicans ran away from the Contract before Newt had any problems. In fact, Republicans ran away from the Contract before they finished voting on all ten parts of the contract. Newt was at the peak of his glory days. Understanding why Republicans have run away from the Contract is key to understanding why Republicans have now become part of the problem and seem to be listening to folks like r9eth:

"The problem is simply that conservatives are ignorant of the real game being played, and too impatient to learn it."

On the contrary, Republican politicians are now playing the same game as the Democrats. That's the rub. Passing Campaign Finance Reform and Medicare Prescription Drugs is precisely playing the "professional" politicians' game. On the other hand, if you meant that "conservative" voters are not aware that Congressional Republicans are now playing the same game that the Democrats have always played, then you have correctly identified the problem. That raises the question about timing:

"Further, conservatives are impatient: they look for The Big Fix, and they refuse to accept incremental gains."

The Federal Reserve Act, the XVIth and XVIIth Amendments were passed in 1913. It took roughly ninety years to push the country to the brink of insolvency. Every democracy in history has eventually ended in bankruptcy or hyperinflation after the public learns to vote itself benefits from the treasury. If you do the math, our country will cross the threshhold of insolvency somewhere in the vicinty of 2015-2020 unless major corrections are made to existing laws.

Major changes in the law will be most easily accomplished by making major changes in the lawmakers who actually make the law. That's what this series is about. We believe we know how to recruit and elect lawmakers made from the same mold as Ronald Reagan and cut from the same cloth as the Founders. Use your ping lists to recruit people to these threads. The Constitution can be restored in the less than a decade, but we are going to need your help. We don't have another ninety years to make a difference. We are asking you to invite your friends and fellow Freepers: Will they and you take The Pledge?

6 posted on 11/29/2005 8:24:37 AM PST by HopefulPatriot
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To: HopefulPatriot; Alia; Mikey; blackie; calrighty; TigersEye; dogger; jeremiah; brityank; ...
A ping to some who have taken The Pledge.
7 posted on 11/29/2005 8:28:06 AM PST by HopefulPatriot
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To: kellynla; headsonpikes; sneakers; Badray; eleni121; xzins; Baynative; hombre_sincero; unixfox

Ping for some who have volunteered to work for freedom.


8 posted on 11/29/2005 8:30:47 AM PST by HopefulPatriot
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LOL! You're pounding on the Big Fix again. Problem is, politics doesn't work that way. The left operates by patience: winning incrementally, and losing incrementally only to try again another day. They're very, very good at this, and it's the best possible strategy to defeat the Big Fix.


9 posted on 11/29/2005 8:39:54 AM PST by r9etb
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To: WhiteGuy

YES

"Why haven't the Republicans used another Contract with America to extend their margins in Congress or to simply advance our conservative agenda?"

Because there IS no conservative agenda......only a socialist one.


10 posted on 11/29/2005 8:41:34 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: HopefulPatriot

You have nailed it!


11 posted on 11/29/2005 8:44:15 AM PST by calrighty (. Troops BTTT)
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To: calrighty

ping


12 posted on 11/29/2005 9:00:52 AM PST by bu9418 (Evil triumphs when good people do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: r9etb
"LOL! You're pounding on the Big Fix again. Problem is, politics doesn't work that way."

Really?
Ronald Reagan won two landslide elections on an unabashed conservative agenda based on the big fix of cutting government down to size:

"We have come to a time for choosing; we will preserve for our children this the last best hope for man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.....history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening." Ronald Reagan 1964

The current article is discussing the landslide epic election that completely changed a seventy-year configuration of Congress and was called the 'Republican Revolution' because of its epic proportions. Incrementalism is the very thing that now endangers the Republican majority in Congress. Open your eyes and your mind. We invite everyone to read and follow this series. It will show you what is possible and more importantly, it will show you how you can be instrumental in achieving the complete restoration of the Constitution.

13 posted on 11/29/2005 9:15:58 AM PST by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: WhiteGuy; writer33; John Robertson; Jack Bull; scouse; M Kehoe; Always Right; syriacus; Fzob; ...

Ping for Freedom.


14 posted on 11/29/2005 1:45:19 PM PST by HopefulPatriot
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To: WhiteGuy

Republicans are no more principled that demoncraps. They're merely more palatable.


15 posted on 11/29/2005 2:34:23 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

I would gladly take a huge swallow of gall if it would make things right - it won't. I'm glad that I'm no YOUNGER than I am. I fear for the Union. I fear the Union.


16 posted on 11/29/2005 2:38:25 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: HopefulPatriot

BTTT


17 posted on 11/29/2005 2:57:56 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: HopefulPatriot

bttt


18 posted on 11/29/2005 5:13:14 PM PST by BransonRevival (Mike Pence for President)
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To: WhiteGuy
...why haven't the Republicans had another Contract with America in a single election since 1994?

Because they were beaten up by the news media all through '95. By the end of '95, it showed in the polls.

How soon we forget.

19 posted on 11/29/2005 5:43:50 PM PST by FreeReign
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This is certainly a possible explanation and probably has merit as it applies to Newt. But this explanation does not hold water when it is applied to the Republicans. Republicans ran away from the Contract before Newt had any problems.

Not true.

20 posted on 11/29/2005 5:46:02 PM PST by FreeReign
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