Tracing the whale’s trail [Evolution trial, daily thread for 15 Oct]

York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 15 October 2005 | LAURI LEBO

[King Prout]

yeah, I know: "I don't bother with Primes on BLOGGER-FORUM THREADS"

[b_sharp]

The sound of one hand clapping.


I think this thread is about done.

[b_sharp]

I think some have moved over to here

[taxesareforever]

I recall reading somewhere that a yeast had the biggest genome.

Are you sure it wasn't "gonads" and not "genome"? :)

[csense]

Apparently to use dishonest out-of-context quotes to "prove" a bogus point.

If that is what is apparent to you, then it's no wonder you are, where you are.

I expected more (including, but not limited to, silence) from one of the royal members of the team. I am so disappointed.

[Junior]

You've broken into the Grand Master's wine cellar again, haven't you?

[csense]

hrmn...

a cylindrical transverse or diametrical core of a tree would be... a core OF RINGS

whereas

a cylindrical perpendicular core of layers would be... a core OF LAYERS

Let's see if you can comprehend an analogy: Just as some folks incorrectly call the ice layers in ice-core samples "rings", some idiots call an AR15 an "assault rifle" and an M-16 an "assault weapon" they are incorrect.

Do you understand?

Commonality of incorrect or sloppy verbiage does not equate to that use being correct.

do you understand THAT?

Feel better now.

Here's a clue: You can correlate, temporally, ice cores from different geographic regions. If my analogy is invalid, then so are such correlations.

Think big. Think real big...or better yet, I'd be statisfied if you were to just think, period.

[King Prout]

Here's a clue: You can correlate, temporally, ice cores from different geographic regions. If my analogy is invalid, then so are such correlations.

yeah, and? do you have a point to make?

[csense]

Well, obviously not. I'm just here typing away randomly #7*n-+X/&...oops, sorry, a bit of order just creeped in there, won't let it happen again.

Good night Gracie...

[PatrickHenry]

Nice prime. I was feeding the dogs, so I never had a shot at it.

[RunningWolf]

Think..

Aren't you expecting a lot from these guys?

[RunningWolf]

You noticed that too

[curiosity]

I have heard that ID does not specifically disagree with micro-evolution, the idea that a trait can be selected out by natural selection, which has been observed.

Even young earth creationists concede microevolutoin. Most IDers go even further. They'll concede that natural selection explains some macroevolutoin. They just deny that it can explain it all.

It seems to me, that once all you are saying is that these changes which scientists attribute to random chance, are actually controlled by God, there is no scientific means of disagreement, and in fact, there would be no problem with evolution being taught in the classroom.

That's true. However, intelligent design folks take it one step futher and say that this divine control can be scientifically detected. This is what gets them in trouble.

Really, I'll need to look into this further, because the whole idea of irreducible complexity requires that some species were just created from nothing, or that God came down and inserted an eye into an animal at some point.

They're more sublte that that. As far as I caan tell, all they're asserting is that at some point God (or excuse me, an unspecified designer) inserted DNA sequences for certain "irreducibly complex" biochemical processes. Of course, they have no evidence.

[phantomworker]

42 is the answer to what question?

[csense]

...obviously I am. Sad state of affairs indeed.

[csense]

Frustrating, isn't it? But then, the theory and the behavior behind it follow a similar course. From their perspective, all is well in the house of Darwin.

[js1138]

So did I.

[Junior]

To life, the universe, and everything.

[phantomworker]

What is the significance of 42?

[js1138]

If you really want to know, google 42.