Posted on 10/15/2005 3:44:16 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
What are you trying to say?
I am saying that I agree with your previous post.
Ok. It's late. Thank you.
I won't bother you again with such trivial inquiries, afterall, what's the point....considering...
I'm sorry...my leaders?
This is a waste of time. Maybe posters such as Cornelis have more patience to deal with this nonsense. I certainly don't, and I've reached my limit for now...
Sorry for being so 'amorphous'. The threads can get confusing after a while. You are correct in that most people look for the simplest solution, and there is evidence of that in architectural systems engineering.
Behe and company.
The poster I was responding to was you. It was in response to your claim* that evolutionists complain when asked for 'proof'. In an earlier post (#109) I explained why that happens.
*"And yet, you, like most other evolutionists, would most likely protest (and that's being kind) when asked for proof. "
To answer your current question, yes I do consider common descent to be 'off the table'. There are enough affirming data points to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that common descent is unassailable. You will notice that my use of the word 'prove' (likewise the word proof) assumes a somewhat less than 100% assurance level. Creationists on the other hand ,when they ask for proof expect a single data point that gives a 100% assurance level.
This difference in definition is why evolutionists keep pounding the idea that scientific theories are not proved, they know what the creationists are expecting and that the expectation is due to a misunderstanding.
Scientific 'proof' is a convergence of multiple data points to a conclusion of high probability. Creationist 'proof' is a single data point that has a probability of 1.
No content. Lost the debate, tuck your tail between your legs and RUN!!!
He didn't seem to notice that I provided the information he asked for. But then reading isn't a strong point for evolution critics.
LW: Religion is the opiate of the masses. - Karl Marx
As I understand it, Marx's thought was subtly different from what you imply. He thought that religion was a kind of self-medication by man against the indifference and brutality of worldy existence. It is (according to him) an opiate because it deadens the pain.
There are many here on FR that do not find God and Evolution to be "mutually exclusive"..
Thanks, Ed. I agree. Marx was quite a bit in left field. LOL
Yes, dead serious. I mean, if you guys had any proof, it might explain why most of America doesn't believe you.. er, did he say that right...
There is a difference between having evidence and having evidence that supports your case. When the evidence can be read to support just about anything until you start spinning it... then it isn't evidence for your position, it is merely incidental.
I remember when "annual rings" in ice cores were "evidence" for evolution. Then it turned out there was nothing annual about the rings in those cores. The evidence for "annual" was actually evidence for warmer/colder periods - nothing more. Anyone wanting to look into this need only study up on "Glacier Girl". So "annual rings" were once "evidence" for long periods of time - or so we were told - with no proof of this mind you.. just a "theory". But then there's nothing stopping one from postulating multiple postulates as support for another postulate and leaving no proof or solid grounding for any or all of it. Evos say, I think, therefore it is so. Some of us out here require a bit more proof than that before buying a car or a laundry soap.. what moron thought they could sell this claptrap on less...
I don't think so. Gravity is a property of matter. It is "omnipresent". Evolution, if it exists as the Dawkins crowd describes it, only exists on planet earth.(although there are those in desperate search for it elsewhere)
You're clouding the issue. The search for extraterrestrial life has nothing to do with evolution, or with this discussion.
Evolution was not created by humans. Evolution is a feature of the natural world, and existed before humans recognized it as such. It is a property of life no less than gravity is a property of matter.
Link please ...
That's a good way to put that.
Does anybody else remember this?? What would ice cores have to do with biological evolution?
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