Posted on 10/11/2005 7:09:03 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
Duly noted. Reagan also nominated Kennedy to the SC.
Free trade is corporatist, not conservative.
PresReagan floated the idea of privatizing SS more then once. As early as 1964 and again in 1976 and 1980. It went nowhere back then, just as it went nowhere today when PresBush sent up his trial balloon. It's obvious Bush got his idea for personal SS accounts from the idea originally offered up by Reagan.
Social Security was in deep trouble when Reagan took office. He appointed Alan Greenspan to head up a SS reform commission, to come up with a plan to make SS solvent again. The Greenspan commission advised Reagan that SS rates be raised, benefits be cut and the retirement age increased. Reagan endorsed the recommendations of the bipartistian commission. The idea of voluntary personal accounts was looked into by the Greenspan commission, but was never considered a viable solution since it was impossible to get enough political agreement at the time.
Fact. SS is the third rail of American politics and right now privatization is a dead idea.
As for amnesty. Reagan did sign the IRCA of 1986 and it was a mistake to do so. However, if the IRCA was enforced and employers were prosecuted and punished for hiring illegals, the one time amnesty deal would have been just that. A one time amnesty for illegals. But it wasn't enforced.
BUMP TO THE TOP, M2C.
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These "conservatives" are a pretty exclusive bunch, and a pretty exclusionary bunch as well. Their view of the world is fairly narrow; they are essentially pessimistic about everything; they are strident in their attitudes and obnoxious in their behavior. But, I guess, they think the glory days of conservatism were when conservatism was narrow, exclusive, strident and obnoxious.
You have it right. The small segment who continue to claim they're "the base" while they seek to destroy the good works and progress we have made.
Note please, that the most venomous and vociferous here are '04 sign-on's and then think back to the threats from DU and moveon.orgie to infiltrate.
Ms. Miers will get her hearing. She deserves that much. But all the clamor really isn't about her. It's about destroying GWB who they cannot control. And thank God for that.
Agree ... and you know what ... come 08 when the next election comes around .. their pick still won't get elected and they will still itch and moan
They did it back when Reagan was President and they are still doing it now
It's a never ending cycle
I wouldn't want to say all, of course, but a great many of those who are always caterwauling about how GWB "betrayed" conservatives, or how he's really a Democrat lite, and so on, are not conservatives at all. Most are hard-right reactionaries from a strain that saw its peak in the 1930's. Pat Buchanan is, indeed, the most well-known among them.
(A few here on FR probably are really Dems pretending to be upset conservatives just to stir the pot and sow division.)
Many, if not all of the Right-wing punditocracy who have been screaming about this nomination are ticked because GWB didn't do what they expected -- even demanded. Ann Coulter is probably the most rabid of them, although Kristol is a smarmy, sly creep who has always been anti-Bush.
Coulter bitterly opposed Roberts, then had the gall to turn around and hold up Roberts as the standard Miers simply could not meet. Worse, she ranted that the President selected Miers because he was "vindictive." In her fevered imagination, GWB was annoyed because "conservatives" shot down Al Gonzalez for the court, so he turned around and picked a worse version of Gonzalez out of spite. That's so totally absurd that it makes me question Coulter's intelligence.
But you're right. This fight is not about Miers. It's about who gets to control the "conservative" agenda going forward.
First it isn't blanket amnesty and second hyperbole seems to be your strong suit.
Actually, I don't think Bush`s proposal will see the light of day. The Prez doesn't want real immigration reform. Bush wants the Hispanic vote to go with the GOP in 2006 and he wants to keep appeasing the business contingent of the GOP by allowing an endless flow of cheap labor into the US illegally.
That is probably one of the better posts I've seen this week..
Corporate tax. He didn't like it at all but was promised a 3 to 1 spending offset from the Dems if he went along with the tax. The Dems of course reneged and RR learned a lesson. So stop trying to paint RR as a tax hiker. He brought the individual tax down more than any past or present POTUS.
Reagan era facts:
Supply Tax Cuts and the Truth About the Reagan Economic Record
The Real Reagan Economic Record: Responsible and Successful Fiscal Policy
A point many nowadays forget. Reagan came into office wanting to disband the departments of energy and education. He wasn't successful. A Democrat house of reps, and for the most part, senate, seen to that.
GWB didn't/doesn't have that problem. Even with a GOP majority in both houses of congress. GWB, with the help of Teddy Kennedy, seen that the largest bill in history for education expenditures was passed. (I didn't know metal detectors were that expensive!)
GWB not only took his place in the Oval Office as one not interested in abolishing the federal, and unConstitutional, bureaucracy, he led the way in expanding it.
Blah, blah, blah, same old distortion.
Thank you for proving our point. It's really GWB you wish to damage, '04 sign-on.
Then tell me why the NEA and ted kennedy now hate the NCLB act.
I can tell you why because it involves standards, and oh yeah BTW, GW Bush has proposed school vouchers for hurricane victims and no doubt the NEA will be against that.
Yeah, because he could do the math...
...unlike Dubya, who treats Federal expenditures and debts like he's Santa Claus.
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