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School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents
AP ^ | 09-23-2005 | none - some liberal

Posted on 09/23/2005 6:11:36 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird

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To: bahblahbah

I know what my kids are up to, so lets not go there, okay?

You're young, so your passion and confidance in your knowledge of the world is understandable. Glad you got yourself together.


41 posted on 09/23/2005 9:06:50 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: pa mom
There is a boy in my son's school with lesbian parents. He doesn't get teased.

I've always thought that this idea that "kids might get teased" so one shouldn't do something is a terribly lame reason. All children get teased. Has anyone here had a childhood where there were not teased for something or other? Whether or not a kid has lesbian parents, a physical handicap, is smart, is dumb, dresses differently or whatever, at some point he will be teased. Making a decision for a child in the hopes that he will never be teased is unreasonable and ridiculous.
42 posted on 09/23/2005 9:07:41 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
I would agree with you except this situation isn't making a decision for a child, but it is to keep the school homogeneously within the Christian faith and its ethics.
43 posted on 09/23/2005 9:18:28 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

I fully support the school's RIGHT to refuse any student. Heck, I fully support my kid's school kicking out a few, too.

I just think this girl will have a dim view of Christianity for the rest of her life. Agree with them or not, the women raising her are the girl's family and she loves them.


44 posted on 09/23/2005 9:22:17 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
A 14-year-old student was expelled from a Christian school because her parents are lesbians, the school's superintendent said in a letter.

Well, at least they didn't burn her at the stake.

45 posted on 09/23/2005 9:36:43 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

I'm glad the parents were punished for putting their kid in a Christian school. The two shouldn't have been allowed to get their hands on a child in the first place.


46 posted on 09/23/2005 9:40:19 AM PDT by coffeebreak (Judicial liberalism is destroying this country.)
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To: bahblahbah

First, that comment you quote was specific to Ontario CANADA, not California. Second, I don't see where it says it was a Catholic School. Going by the name I would guess it isn't. Third, I said it was perfectly OK for the school to set a standard for the students it accepts, but the standard should be based on the THE STUDENT, not on the parent(s). How do you know this girl wasn't the one insisting on going to a Christian School, how do you know what she intended? You judge so much from knowing so little, I think Christ said something about that too...


47 posted on 09/23/2005 9:56:14 AM PDT by Grig
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To: lady lawyer

So bar those two women from the PTA or whatever. A penalty is being imposed on the CHILD, what did the CHILD do to deserve it?


48 posted on 09/23/2005 9:57:23 AM PDT by Grig
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

It certainly wasn't the smartest thing to do. They obviously want her to have a christian based education and now she will be forced into the public school system. Why punish her?


49 posted on 09/23/2005 10:05:04 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: Grig
"First, that comment you quote was specific to Ontario CANADA, not California. Second, I don't see where it says it was a Catholic School. Going by the name I would guess it isn't."

Wow HAHA, that has nothing to do with my comments. I don't even know if its worth explaining if you got hung up on that. If you look back, I'm basically attacking how you perceive "PC garbage" and "Christians". You're advocating for both being ingested into this school.

"You judge so much from knowing so little, I think Christ said something about that too..."

Aahh, but you're even more guilty as you judge this entire school filled with Christians off just as little information.
50 posted on 09/23/2005 10:06:35 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

I did't say that right. You're advocating for the "PC Garbage" and people whom this school doesn't consider "Christian".


51 posted on 09/23/2005 10:09:08 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Grig

The girl has been deprived of Christian comfort, teaching, and education. What purpose has been served by expelling her?


52 posted on 09/23/2005 10:10:52 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Grig

The child probably didn't do anything. She was being cynically used by those two women in an effort to desensitive other people's children to the idea of same-sex "parents."

The girl either had to be prevented from ever mentioning her mother's living arrangement, or the other kids would be introduced to the idea in a way that would make them sympathetic to it -- i.e., if their friend if from a household like that, it can't be so bad.

It isn't a fair situation, but it wasn't created by the Christian school. The sins of the parents are always on the heads of the children. It's a shame, and the child never does anything to deserve it, but it doesn't mean that others have to abandon all standards to prevent it.

You also have to wonder how this whole thing came about. I get the very definite sense that something important is being left out of the story. The child had been admitted to the school, right? Nobody knew about her mother's living arrangement. She was expelled when was "reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game." Talking about what? That it's possible to have two moms? That her mother's living arrangement was just as good as having married, heterosexual parents? Maybe she was deliberately proselytizing.'

I'm not saying even that would be the girl's fault. She wouldn't know any better. She has a mother who has taught her perversion.

In any event her presence at the school could only help the gay agenda, and hurt the efforts of the other parents to teach their children that some actions are simply unacceptable.


53 posted on 09/23/2005 10:12:49 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: bahblahbah

"You're advocating for both being ingested into this school."

Not at all, I'm saying if a student is going to be expelled, it should be because of the student's choices, not because of the other people's choices. As far as this story reports, the student herself hasn't done anything to justify being expelled.

"Aahh, but you're even more guilty as you judge this entire school filled with Christians off just as little information."

I did not judge the school, I judged one particular decision they made on the basis of the reported facts.


54 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:36 AM PDT by Grig
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To: bahblahbah

"I did't say that right. You're advocating for the "PC Garbage" and people whom this school doesn't consider "Christian"."

How do you know the student is 'PC Garbage" and non-Christian?


55 posted on 09/23/2005 10:42:18 AM PDT by Grig
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To: pageonetoo

"Paul made it perfectly clear, (see my quote from Scripture above) that you, as a Christian are NOT to have fellowship (eating, etc) with unGodly people."

Interesting that Christ, from whom the term Christian is derived, didn't seem to adhere to such a proscription. I think Paul's message was primarily directed toward other members. I'm not sure how that applies to a school setting.

Obviously, the school had every right to expel the student. Her parents are to be commended for not making a big deal about it and suing the school. Sounds like they're accepting the decision.


56 posted on 09/23/2005 10:56:21 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek; pa mom
I think Paul's message was primarily directed toward other members. I'm not sure how that applies to a school setting.

Jesus did not fellowship with the people. He circulated among them, then separated Himself to teach, and nurture His immediate followers, the twelve. Read a little closer. He MINISTERED to the people.

Indeed, Paul was preaching to the converted. This was a Christian School. How would it NOT apply? Is the Christ taught in the school supposed to be different, than that heard about on Sunday morning?

Her parents have no issue they can sue for. The gum't does not forcefeed everybody. If the school takes no gum't funds, they are not bound by your PC rules...

Her "parents" are homosexual. They are in charge of three yound women. They say they have been together for 22 yrs, these two "parents". So where did the kids come from? Where do you think they are headed.

Your PC stance sounds nice, but it is unScriptural. It is also not "Christian", to discount Scripture, because you "feel" bad about the kids. But, I guess you don't have those standards, by which to measure...

57 posted on 09/23/2005 11:24:27 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo

enough, please.


58 posted on 09/23/2005 11:25:37 AM PDT by pa mom
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The whole premise of the article is wrong. The birth mother violated the school rule so her daughter was expelled.

Paying tuition is a school rule as well. So if the daughter should not be punished for the mother's behavior then she should be able to attend tuition free?

What about paying for lunch? Free lunch?

How about signing waivers? I have to sign a waiver so my son can march during a half time show. Should he march if I don't sign the waiver?

What if send my son to school in clothing that violates the dress code? Should he be allowed to stay?

The fact is, MANY behaviors of parents can be used to have their children expelled. This is not about them being gay, its about rules violations.

So what some of you are saying is that if you don't like the rules, just ignore them and you shouldn't have to face any consequences for your action.

Some of you really are starting to sound like the liberals on this one.
59 posted on 09/23/2005 11:41:41 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: lady lawyer

"The child probably didn't do anything."

Exactly. So the school has no justification for their actions IMHO.

"She was being cynically used by those two women in an effort to desensitive other people's children to the idea of same-sex "parents." "

So students should be expelled based on the motives of the parents for selecting that school?

"The girl either had to be prevented from ever mentioning her mother's living arrangement, or the other kids would be introduced to the idea in a way that would make them sympathetic to it -- i.e., if their friend if from a household like that, it can't be so bad."

Do you think faith can only be maintained by sheltering kids from reality? Chances are kids who got to know them would come away with an even stronger testemony that the traditional family is best.

"You also have to wonder how this whole thing came about. I get the very definite sense that something important is being left out of the story. The child had been admitted to the school, right? Nobody knew about her mother's living arrangement. She was expelled when was "reprimanded for talking to the crowd during a football game." Talking about what? That it's possible to have two moms? That her mother's living arrangement was just as good as having married, heterosexual parents? Maybe she was deliberately proselytizing.'"

Could be, and if so those actions justify what the school did. I'm saddend though to see people here who think that expelling the girl JUST for being from a messed up home is right. You yourself said was unfair, and if it's unfair, how can it be right?


60 posted on 09/23/2005 11:42:19 AM PDT by Grig
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