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The Hidden Agenda Behind HIV (Conservatives Dupped into Supporting Socialist Public Health Agenda)
sumeria.net ^ | 1994 | Bryan Ellison

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:59:01 PM PDT by TapTheSource

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1 posted on 05/01/2005 9:59:02 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

For those who have never heard of this controversy/major scandal, it was none other than the conservative Policy Review (Hoover Inst.) that brought this controversy to the attention of conservatives! For original article, see:

http://www.duesberg.com/about/pdpolicy.html


2 posted on 05/01/2005 10:01:17 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource; Lead Moderator

Seriously.

This guy is posting the same crap over and over again, each time with an inflammatory, taunting headline. Enough is enough.


3 posted on 05/01/2005 10:04:08 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: denydenydeny; Lead Moderator

No I am not. The lead moderator asked me to post this material under the original heading so as to prevent duplicate postings.


4 posted on 05/01/2005 10:07:20 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
The Hidden Agenda Behind HIV (Conservatives Dupped into Supporting Socialist Public Health Agenda)

This "dupping" of which you speak...is it connected to "schtupping"?

5 posted on 05/01/2005 10:13:18 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: denydenydeny

Third time tonight, and it's no less idiotic.


6 posted on 05/01/2005 10:14:01 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: denydenydeny

BTW, you'd think this "breaking news" would have been published THIS CENTURY.


7 posted on 05/01/2005 10:14:42 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Not sure what you are referring to..did you read the Policy Review link in post #2? If not, I encourage you to do so...it's a great place to start.


8 posted on 05/01/2005 10:15:45 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Duesberg is full of it. People have been infatuated with this idea for years; but it's old and pretty much dead.


9 posted on 05/01/2005 10:17:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TapTheSource

Actually the main promoter of the idea HIV doesn't cause AIDS was Bob Guccione Jr.'s Spin Magazine.


10 posted on 05/01/2005 10:19:06 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

==Duesberg is full of it. People have been infatuated with this idea for years; but it's old and pretty much dead.

So is Jesus Christ...but it's funny, people keep talking about His message. Truth is truth no matter how hard the liars try to make it go away.


11 posted on 05/01/2005 10:20:50 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: Strategerist

And like all Truth--even when the liars think it's finally dead--it rises from the ashes when they least expect it.


12 posted on 05/01/2005 10:22:55 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Tell you what, if it's ever generally accepted that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, I'll send you $10,000.

If 20 years from now nobody gives a s*** about Duesberg, as they do now, you send me $10,000. Deal?


13 posted on 05/01/2005 10:25:59 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

If you want the whole story in an easy to understand nutshell, please see the following audio links (better than anything you've heard on talk radio lately):

Part 1:

http://www.attacreport.com/ar_audio/ref_aids_video_1.htm

Part 2:

http://www.attacreport.com/feature_2.htm


14 posted on 05/01/2005 10:28:21 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: Strategerist

I don't place any faith in the fickle undulations of public opinion. Truth is Truth...that's why I became a Conservative. Liberals bet on the crowd.


15 posted on 05/01/2005 10:30:44 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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I'm fully aware of the entire ridiculous hypothesis because it was run in collegiate debate cases ad nauseam (for a variety of reasons) in the mid 1990s.

It's deader than a doornail now.

I've got a better deal for you: Find someone with full-blown AIDS, and inject some of their blood every day into yourself for a year.

You should be happily willing to do that, right?


16 posted on 05/01/2005 10:40:57 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TapTheSource

" Indeed, epidemiologists have yet to establish that any epidemic at all has struck among blood transfusion recipients. "

Wait, does that mean Ryan White was a drug addict?


17 posted on 05/01/2005 10:53:25 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (Most people are morally ambiguous, which explains their random dying pattern)
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To: Strategerist

==Find someone with full-blown AIDS, and inject some of their blood every day into yourself for a year.

If you knew anything about what really causes AIDS, you wouldn't be asking such a thing of me. These people are dying of very real diseases, but they are not caused by HIV. Why on earth would I inject the blood of people who are dying of the following old conditions/old diseases into my own body?

"AIDS defining" diseases/conditions:

Bacterial Infections

Mycobacterium Avium Complex (MAC)
Mycobacterium Kansasii
Salmonellosis
Syphilis & Neurosyphilis
Tuberculosis (TB)

Malignancies (Cancers)

Anal Dysplasia/Cancer
Cervical Dysplasia/Cancer
Kaposi's Sarcoma (KS)
Lymphomas

Viral Infections

Cytomegalovirus (CMV)
Hepatitis C
Herpes Simplex Virus (oral & genital herpes)
Herpes Zoster Virus (shingles)
Human Papiloma Virus (HPV, genital warts, anal/cervical dysplasia/cancer)
Molluscum Contagiosum
Oral Hairy Leukoplakia (OHL)
Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy (PML)

Fungal Infections

Aspergillosis
Candidiasis (thrush, yeast infection)
Coccidioidomycosis
Cryptococcal Meningitis
Histoplasmosis

Protozoal Infections

Cryptosporidiosis
Isosporiasis
Microsporidiosis
Pneumocystis Pneumonia (PCP)
Toxoplasmosis

Neurological Conditions

AIDS Dementia Complex (ADC)
Peripheral Neuropathy

Other Conditions and Complications

Aphthous Ulcers (Canker Sores)
Thrombocytopenia (low platelets)
Wasting Syndrome


18 posted on 05/01/2005 10:57:40 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Do you have a link for this?


19 posted on 05/01/2005 10:59:44 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Link for what?


20 posted on 05/01/2005 11:18:27 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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