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AIDS: The Left: 1, Conservatives: 0
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/kmreason.htm ^ | Bryan Ellison, Phillip Johnson, Kary Mullis, Charles Thomas

Posted on 05/01/2005 6:25:13 PM PDT by TapTheSource

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To: muawiyah

==The left loves this stuff because it lets intravenous drug users off the hook as well

How exactly does "Drugs Cause AIDS" let drug abusers off the hook??? Please expain.


21 posted on 05/01/2005 7:18:30 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

They don't think smack is a drug!


22 posted on 05/01/2005 7:33:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

==They don't think smack is a drug!

LOL! Then let's use this info. to convince these idiots that Smack is in fact a drug that depresses their immune system!


23 posted on 05/01/2005 7:43:25 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
Why would I want to discuss this issue with someone with such a huge chip on his shoulder that he is rude and offensive to me because I dared point out that the vast, VAST majority of data are against this author's position?

Just because someone is a conservative doesn't make him right. If you choose to let your politics dictate your gullibility, fine--if you get all hot and bothered because of what you WANT to be true as opposed to what the mountains of evidence prove, fine. But cut the defensive attitude and maybe open your brain to the work that proves this guy is biased and looking for a "conservative" position on HIV. Science doesn't know politics, and pointing out this writer's laughable flaws--such as his desire to be injected with "pure" HIV, as if that has any relevence, and his bizarre leap in logic over early HIV drugs which suppressed the immune system somehow PROVING his point, when all it proved is that there was a long way to go in terms of finding the proper levels of medication--is so easy that one can only shrug and let the people who are obsessed with "proving" a political angle to an issue of science.

In other words, take your ignorance and your insulting manner and cram it, idiot.

24 posted on 05/01/2005 7:48:08 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: TapTheSource
"Reason June 1994"

This hardly qualifies as "news" or "current events". More like someone with an ax to grind.

25 posted on 05/01/2005 7:50:13 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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==Why would I want to discuss this issue with someone with such a huge chip on his shoulder that he is rude and offensive to me because I dared point out that the vast, VAST majority of data are against this author's position?

You mean government funded research. As a conservative, you should know that the DOLLARS, and those who attach themselves to those dollars, are vastly stacked against us...especially when it comes to science (which, except for environmentalism, is STILL one of the few areas that is viewed by conservatives as sacrosanct). Quit resting on your laurels and find out the truth for yourself. That's what we CONSERVATIVES are all about.
26 posted on 05/01/2005 8:00:26 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: Darkwolf

Keep sleeping, Darkwolf. I'm appealing to indepent-minded conservatives, not rubberstamp members of the Public Health/Environmental Establishment.


27 posted on 05/01/2005 8:02:08 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Would you like a flameproof tagline ?? : )


28 posted on 05/01/2005 8:37:25 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

Yes!!!


29 posted on 05/01/2005 8:44:06 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

I will make you a gift of one : )
There are lots of FReepers who are "RNC" party only.
The vast majority of your posts are done by your own selfless research, and I am one FReeper who damn well appreciates it.

Best regards,
Tim


30 posted on 05/01/2005 8:52:23 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

Are you saying that there are party-liners out there who wish they were looking at the intrument panel that connects their electrodes to my brain? I can see them now: "He has deviated from the party line...bury the needle!" :o)


31 posted on 05/01/2005 9:08:15 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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"Why would I want to discuss this issue with someone with such a huge chip on his shoulder that he is rude and offensive to me because I dared point out that the vast, VAST majority of data are against this author's position?"

Please point out:

1) The study which shows that HIV has been isolated

2) The study which shows that HIV causes "AIDS"


32 posted on 05/01/2005 9:14:55 PM PDT by adam_az (Support the Minute Man Project - http://www.minutemanproject.com/Donations.html)
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To: TapTheSource

Yeah, sumpin lak dat.........


33 posted on 05/01/2005 9:27:56 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

THE GREAT HIV / AIDS HOAX

The multi-billion dollar AIDS/HIV fraud is based on two fabrications: that AIDS is a single disease and that it is caused by the HI virus or the "HIV virus" as some medical/media masterminds call it - perhaps they think the V in HIV stands for volcano.

In Japan "AIDS" is virtually unknown : yet, in random tests, 25% of people were found to be "HIV-positive".
HIV-positive response means nothing of any relevance to health: it can be triggered by vaccination, malnutrition, M.S., measles, influenza,
papilloma virus wart, Epstein Barr virus, leprosy, glandular fever, hepatitis, syphillis ... : over sixty different conditions.

Dr Robert E. Willner, inoculated himself with the blood of Pedro Tocino, a HIV-positive haemophiliac, on live Spanish television: an event which was not picked up the pharma-beholden British or US media.

The great HIV/AIDS lie was created by Robert Gallo who was found guilty of "scientific misconduct". "...instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers...he went public. Then, with the help of
Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services, who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, the infamous
world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS virus came about.

This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands... It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV the day after the announcement...Gallo is now a multi-millionaire because of AIDS and his fraudulent AIDS test." Dr.
Willner.

By grouping together 25-plus different diseases and other allied factors -
pneumonia, herpes, candidiasis, salmonella, various cancers, infections, vaccine and antibiotic damage, amyl nitrate damage, malnutrition etc.and,
particularly in Africa, TB, malaria, dysentery leprosy and "slim disease" - and calling the whole thing an "AIDS epidemic", a multi-billion dollar/pound "AIDS research and treatment" racket has been created.

The mythical "HIV-induced AIDS plague" in the Third World generates huge sums of cash from Western relief organisations whilst smokescreening the
vaccine/drug boys, responsible for the carnage.

Every death of someone "HIV-positive" is recorded as an "AIDS death".

Periodically, the BBC/ITV/Press visit
Africa/Yugoslavia/Russia etc to
report on the "HIV/AIDS victims" and how they cannot afford the "life-saving AZT." Glaxo Wellcome's lethal drug, AZT, in combination with the diagnosis of
HIV-positive and the prediction, stated or implied, that - "You will die of AIDS" is one of the great pieces of Medical Black Magic - Voodoo Medicine at its most impressive: people have committed suicide on the
basis of the ludicrous diagnosis.

Pregnant women who are HIV-positive have been told to stop breast-feeding, dosed with AZT, have had abortions or have been sterilised. HIV-positive
babies who become ill -from vaccination or whatever - are automatically diagnosed as "suffering from AIDS".
"Considering that there is little scientific proof of the exact linkage of HIV and AIDS, is it ethical to prescribe AZT, a toxic chain terminator of DNA...to 150,000 Americans - among them pregnant women and newborn babies..? Rep.G Gutknecht US House of Representatives.

New Labour "Health" have now announced that all pregnant women in the UK will be "offered" a HIV test. Those who fall for the scam and who are diagnosed as "HIV positive" will be given the chance to have themselves and their unborn child permanently damaged by AZT etc. Pregnancy, itself, can cause a positive diagnosis.

AZT began as a "cancer drug" but was withdrawn for being too toxic: like being thrown out of the Gestapo for cruelty. Its effects include - cancer, hepatitis, dementia, seizures, anxiety, impotence, leukopaenia, , severe
nausea, ataxia, etc. and the termination of DNA synthesis. i.e. AIDS/death by prescription. AZT eventually kills all those who continue to take it.

"WARNING : Retrovir (AZT)...has been associated with symptomatic myopathy, similar to that produced by Human Immunodeficiency Virus..." Glaxo
Wellcome literature!

None of which stops the medical trade from pushing it on every trusting sap who is not ill to start with but is labelled with the "HIV-positive" nonsense and then destroyed by AZT; with "AIDS" getting the blame - and
more billions pouring in for the drug boys, vivisectors, animal breeders and the rest. The latest stunt is to give a "cocktail" of drugs - including AZT, of course, and at £12,000 per head, per year - to all homosexual men who are "HIV-positive".

A particularly good scam is to haul into court someone "guilty of deliberately infecting the victim with the 'HIV-Virus which causes AIDS' " which then develops into "full-blown AIDS" - no mention of vaccine,
antibiotic damage etc or full-blown AZT. Over 2000 - and rising, of the world's scientists are now disputing the HIV hoax, their efforts being continually suppressed by the AIDS establishment, the pharmaceutical/vivisection syndicate and their political and media lackeys


34 posted on 05/01/2005 9:40:43 PM PDT by David Lane
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To: muawiyah

==BTW, there were still doctors disputing the germ theory of disease as late as the Franco-Prussian War.

Exactly...those who maintain HIV causes AIDS are in the same camp.


35 posted on 05/01/2005 9:51:47 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: Darkwolf

That was a cardboard standup?


36 posted on 05/01/2005 9:54:54 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: TapTheSource

I was being facetious, but on a serious note my opinion is that if HIV were not the cause of AIDS then at least one maverick scientist somewhere would want to collect a Nobel Prize when they prove it. Science by its very nature is immune to vast conspiracy.


37 posted on 05/01/2005 10:00:41 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Darkwolf
Here you go. Never was it more appropriate.


38 posted on 05/01/2005 10:01:09 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: AntiGuv

==I was being facetious, but on a serious note my opinion is that if HIV were not the cause of AIDS then at least one maverick scientist somewhere would want to collect a Nobel Prize when they prove it. Science by its very nature is immune to vast conspiracy.

Government funded science has been coopted by the Left, just like "environmental science". I don't know about "vast conspiracies", but there are vast vested POLITICAL INTERESTS keeping the truth about AIDS from the public. Hopefully you will take the time to investigate this issue for yourself. Anyways, thanks for reading.


39 posted on 05/01/2005 10:05:42 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: denydenydeny

Thank you. This thread needed a sanity injection.


40 posted on 05/01/2005 10:09:33 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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