Bad News About Firefox Security

Developer Weblogs ^ | 2/9/2005 | Preston Gralla

[KwasiOwusu]

"The delusion he projects is absolutely amazing"

LMAO!
You guys just crack me up.
I haven't laughed so loud for days.
Delusion? Have you looked at yourself in the mirror this morning at all?
Now, that face you see staring at you, is the face of delusion.
Here you have your "Firefox is secure" myth collapsing all around you like a deck of cards.
Hopefully even you, will stop deluding yourself.

[Doohickey]

There's a gestures plug-in for Firefox that you may want to check out. I use it somewhat since Firefox doesn't cooperate with the touchpad gestures the device driver (and IE) support.

[PeterFinn]

Internet Explorer version 6.0.2900 or higher with the XP SP2 seems to resolve a lot of issues.

It is becoming a better and better product.

[BibChr]

I caught some fire (no pun) and scorn in a Firefox thread for suggesting it'd have its own share of bugs and attacks, once its public profile became prominent enough to attract attention.

I'm still waiting for all the apologies.

Dan
(c;

[thoughtomator]

The flaws in your logic are staggering. I've said not a word about open source, and the fact is I'm completely indifferent to the genesis of any particular product. Moreover, I've been entirely clear that this has nothing to do with the number of viruses - something you apparently don't want to give up as it's all you have to hang that flimsy argument on - but in the number of actual security problems in the software. Just because someone hasn't written a virus to take advantage of a flaw doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Though I do understand where you are coming from. Microsoft has quite the record of pretending that flaws don't exist and covering them up from public knowledge.

Show me the Firefox equivalent of this and maybe I'll concede that you have a smidgen of an argument: http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=22103358

[Iris7]

Work around for the top paragraph security hole, which is in the Gecko kernel, at http://users.tns.net/%7Eskingery/weblog/2005/02/workaround-for-idn-spoofing-issue.html

[KwasiOwusu]

"1) Troll looking for flame wars."

That fits you to a "t".

"2) MS shill, heck maybe even both"

Hey go suck on something.
You are getting hysterical. You are clearly an open source shill.
On the other hand 90% or more of the PC using population of this country uses Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office or Microsoft Internet Explorer.
Using Microsoft products like I do, IS mainstream America.
You are still the shrill shill.

[Cold Heat]

I think I tried it, but I will check.

I have three browsers, and both IE and Netscape work well.Initially I liked Firefox for reading and browsing, but I can't seem to compose with it.

BTW, I have always used Zone and a good Anti Virus and popup blocker and I have never been unhappy with IE.

Currently, my laptop will not support SP-2. (something with the processor) But it works great.

It just does not like Firefox.:-)

[KwasiOwusu]

"The flaws in your logic are staggering"

You don't even have ANY logic. Period.
You wouldn't know logic if it hit you in the face.
Therefore, there is no logic from you to find fault with.

[thoughtomator]

Do you realize how much you discredit yourself when you call multiple people who haven't said a word about open source, "open source shills"?

Your behavior, on the other hand, is most easily explained if you happen to be a PR agent for Microsoft or have some other vested interest. Certainly logic is not among the tools you are employing on this thread.

[KwasiOwusu]

"Work around for the top paragraph security hole"

"Work around"?

That supposed to be good enough for hundreds of millions of non-geeky browser using American consumers?

[JustAnAmerican]

Yep, you fit #1 perfectly, if you can't back up your argument with facts you go off on another tangent. I noticed you just joined in Oct of last year so the verdict will be out on you for quite some time yet. Anytime you want to refute any of my posts to you with facts feel free to do so. I will check back ever so often to check on your progress.

[thoughtomator]

Thank you for proving me right. You cannot even attempt an honest comparison because you know the truth:

Microsoft IE is a security nightmare far and beyond any other program on the market.

[thoughtomator]

Yes, at this point we can reasonably expect him of engaging in commercial activity on FR. His behavior goes far and beyond discussion on the merits, indeed he hasn't even attempted to discuss merits, and has changed the subject with every challenge.

[PeterFinn]

"The most secure MS software is the stuff that's too old to write viruses for."

Very true! I use a Win98 machine for cruising sites with hostile scripting for precisely this reason!

[KwasiOwusu]

"I caught some fire (no pun) and scorn in a Firefox thread for suggesting it'd have its own share of bugs and attacks, once its public profile became prominent enough to attract attention. "

Typical from the Firefox nuts.
These guys spend their lives attacking Microsoft, and then go hysterical, vicious and nasty when they get attacked for Firebox coming up with the very same things they criticized Microsoft for.
Are these guys for real?

[thoughtomator]

The part of the article that Kwasi doesn't want you to read:

People have rightly accused Microsoft of not posting security patches quickly enough. But up until now, Firefox developers have always been quick to react with security fixes.

Let's hope that this is an anomaly, and patches are posted quickly. I'd hate to see Firefox get bedeviled by the same problems that afflict Internet Explorer.

Check it out Kwasi, your OWN ARTICLE REFUTES YOU.

[KwasiOwusu]

"Thank you for proving me right. You cannot even attempt an honest comparison because you know the truth: "

Wrong answer.
Thanks for proving ME right.
My comparisons are the correct and valid comparisons.
Yours are just so much hot air, empty rantings from an open source nut, with no substance.

Bottom line: Firefox, even with very few virus writers paying any attention to it, is now a security nightmare.
Users are very well warned to keep a very safe distance from this piece of open source garbage.

[thoughtomator]

Yawn. Assert, assert, assert, but never show proof. You ARE a Microsoft employee, aren't you? That's twice now you've accused me of being partial to open source. You're free to scan my comments - I have 7 years of them here - for any shred of evidence to back that up.

I'll give you 24 hours then I'll have the mods take a close look at your trolling behavior and decide whether the balance of evidence shows you to be engaged in commercial activity and/or unsubstantiated personal attacks here. Start hunting!

[KwasiOwusu]

"People have rightly accused Microsoft of not posting security patches quickly enough"

This article was written by a a guy who SUPPORTS open source.
That's exactly what you'd expect him to say.
In fact that makes his statements altogether more damaging to Firefox.

I "didn't want you to read that part"?
LMAO!!
So why'd I give you the link then?
LMAO!