Posted on 01/28/2005 6:45:05 AM PST by blackminorcapullets
"Did you translate the original post yourself? If you did, I would like to tap your abilities in the future. Is that ok. Thanks--TTS"
If he translated it himself, he a.) either did not understand it correctly, or b.) blatantly misrepresented what is written on the site.
Amen JB6! Well put. BTW, I actually was able to observe the previous Duma elections. From what I saw, the polls were well more organized than ours. Also, the younger generation is more politically astute than our own. Oh, whoops, I mean, Damn them all. Commies! They want to take us over. There, is that better, TTS, and Blackdropletsofhate?
You are very correct and that has been a practice from the Tsars on down, to make sure the Prosecutors didn't have grounds on you. Further, the Russian word for illegal is Nelegalnayo or ProtivZakonaya (against the law). The whole first paragraph was ignored from the linked document too, which explained it's company policy.
jb6
Wow - what a list of non issue straw man arguments.
Who cares about those so called "propaganda" items that are very convenient for you.
I rather talk about the Kremlins ham handed attempt to takeover Ukraine.
"observe the previous Duma elections."
Is this the same duma that was considering outlawing all Jewish organizations?
"no it was translated on the blogsite"
And nowhere on Veronika's blog does she state in the translation that it is ILLEGAL. She does have some mistakes in her translation, but mainly due to her English language skills.
"Is this the same duma that was considering outlawing all Jewish organizations?"
Nope and once again you're misrepresenting the facts. The "Duma" is not considering outlawing all Jewish organizations. There were only 20 Duma reps trying to do this. They are all known "attention mongerers." Well, you're certainly giving them the attention they do not deserve. I congratulate you. BTW, Judaism is one of the 5 officially recognized religions in Russia. To "outlaw" it would require a Duma majority and Putin's signature. It ain't going to happen and the 20 know that. But, they did get on tv, which is what they wanted. One of their ringleaders is a Jew.
You've got mail!
For several veterans that have opinions on everything else, I'm surprised that you don't have opinions on which sight they used on the M14 - peep or open - (and every one hated one or the other).
"I would say his having been the Chief of Romanian intelligence makes him an expert in his subject area, don't you think? At least Pacepa defected. Putin, on the other hand, spent his life building and upholding the genocidal regime of the Soviet Union as an officer in the dreaded KGB...and now he's the president of "Russia." Apparently the people of Russia had a real love-affair with the KGB, since Putin was elected with "72% of the vote.""
So, you want us to believe a "former" Communist who, as a security services agent had to undergo the most vigorous background screening to assure the state that he was extremely dedicated to their cause. After falling afoul of said state for dubious activities he suddenly had a change of heart and defected? Actually, he fled to save his neck. I'd love to hear from the people he oppressed while in his position in Romania, but unfortunately I cannot speak with the dead.
Regarding Putin's popularity. He is about that popular, and the 72% is actually 8 points lower than opinion polls showed prior to the election. Tell me this, would you have rathered Zuganov been elected? Or the radical anti-Semite self-hating Jew Zhirinovsky?
"Regarding Putin's popularity. He is about that popular, and the 72% is actually 8 points lower than opinion polls showed prior to the election. Tell me this, would you have rathered Zuganov been elected? Or the radical anti-Semite self-hating Jew Zhirinovsky?"
Ah, I was wondering when one of you were going to get around to bringing that up. Sounds like a typical Soviet election to me...rigged. What do the Communists call it when you present the people with false alternatives to ensure the "right" guy wins?...Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis.
"Ah, I was wondering when one of you were going to get around to bringing that up. Sounds like a typical Soviet election to me...rigged. What do the Communists call it when you present the people with false alternatives to ensure the "right" guy wins?...Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis."
And you would know that from all of your interaction with Russians and from all that time you spend over there to assess the situation? You're wrong, wrong, wrong. Putin is extremely popular with most people, but hated by Communists, neonazis, anti-Semites, nationalists, and you. You're in "good" company.
Makes him a criminal on the highest level. A Soviet Thug on the level of Stalin's Beria who has escaped justice and makes money off of his life's work of oppressing and exterminating people.
as an officer in the dreaded KGB
Which directive of the KGB? Do you even know that? The border guards were also in the KGB.
Apparently the people of Russia had a real love-affair with the KGB, since Putin was elected with "72% of the vote
Well I guess you hate the Russian people after all, except for the communists, socialists, oligarchs and islamics. What do you know!
Not according to the OSCE and US observers, unless of course you are actively suggesting that President Bush would help Putin rig an election. Are you?
"You're wrong, wrong, wrong. Putin is extremely popular with most people, but hated by Communists, neonazis, anti-Semites, nationalists, and you. You're in "good" company."
Putin is a Communist/KGB president...a real Communist, as opposed to naive street-level Communists who have most likely been tasked to "oppose" him in order to build his credibility amongst the Russian people (who, I am sure we will both agree, hate the Communists). Wasn't it Hitler who said "The German people have no idea of the extent they had to be gulled in order to be led." Same principle applies here IMO. Read Golitsyn...but don't let them catch you reading him in the Soviet Union/Russia (wouldn't be good for you health).
"After falling afoul of said state for dubious activities he suddenly had a change of heart and defected? Actually, he fled to save his neck."
Again, please cite your sources. When exactly did Pacepa run afoul with his Communist masters???
Can I assume by your silence on Golitsyn that you have never read his works???
"You would be unable to recognize sarcasm even if it reached up and slapped you in the face. My point was, given the alternatives, who else were they going to vote for. The election was rigged, not necessarily at the polls, but in terms of who was allowed to run. Typical of the Communists."
Your sarcasm was noted and ignored. Name one person, one candidate who was not allowed to run. Why would they need to rig an election that was already in the bag?
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