Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[ALS]

[ALS]

uhoh

tornado sirens in ahhhs!

brb

[Dimensio]

I think that the agnostic position is that it is impossible for anyone to know for certain if a god exists.

Such an agnostic could still accept the existence of a god "on faith" (and thus be a theist agnostic) or find the idea of believing in something that cannot be established to exist silly and not believe in any gods (and thus be an atheist agnostic).

[Dimensio]

Who is this ALS people speak of? I see no postings by an "ALS".

[Right Wing Professor]

Who is this ALS people speak of? I see no postings by an "ALS".

So would you say you're agnostic on the question?

[js1138]

I'm agnostic about his existence.

[Right Wing Professor]

It's at least as real as Kent Hovind's doctorate. What is the going rate for a fake Ed.D. degree these days, anyway?

[bondserv]

ALS
Arnold Lewis Schwarzenegger - Terminator

[ALS]

No, we would say the obvious. He selectively sees what he wants. evo-typical symptom

[bondserv]

Well, the terminator part anyway. :-)

[Timmy]

If there is scientific evidence that creates problems for the Theory of Evolution, I'd like to hear it.

Well, actually it is the LACK of evidence that creates the problem for the Theory of Evolution. If there was substantial evidence, this debate would be moot. However . . .

[Right Wing Professor]

Don't see any lack of evidence here...

[ALS]

[PatrickHenry]

I think that the agnostic position is that it is impossible for anyone to know for certain if a god exists. Such an agnostic could still accept the existence of a god "on faith" (and thus be a theist agnostic) or find the idea of believing in something that cannot be established to exist silly and not believe in any gods (and thus be an atheist agnostic).

I've never encountered these expressions. They're clever, but I suspect they're redundant. Intelligent theists realize they can't literally prove their positions are correct, so they would all be "theistic agnostics" as you define the term. They would differ only in the degree of their personal doubts, but all would understand that proof is impossible.

In the non-theist camp, I'm aware of a few catagories of this position, some being weak versions of atheism, some strong. Each variety concludes that he doesn't believe because: (1) I don't know if gods exist; (2) no one can know if gods exist; and (3) I do know that gods do not exist. These are all different positions.

[js1138]

Positions 2 and 3 are too strong for my blood. I could envision certain kinds of evidence that would convince me I had witnessed a manifestation of God, even though no one else could confirm it. Not being John Denver, I haven't been privy to such a manifestation.

[goodseedhomeschool]

Dr. Dino has a new radio call in talk show which comes on M-F at 5:00 pm central time.
http://www.drdino.com
scroll to bottom of his page and click on the radio on line show. Here is your chance evos to have your voice heard. Think of your best question and call in 888-878-8436. I would love to hear you debate him live on the air. He is tough so have your notes ready. :)
His show is wonderful fellow Christians and Creationists. YOu will get a blessing. I will return later. Gotta go make pizza. Blessings to all.
I DID IT :)
I say if you question Dr. Hovind's ability, put it to the test. Fear not, learning is GOOD

[ALS]

They don't fare well without each other. Can they do a conference call?

[goodseedhomeschool]

Sure, the more the better. I saw him take on 3 professors once, it was a thing of beauty. :)

[gore3000]

All your "sources" have been thoroughly refuted. SciAm was so ashamed it tried to sue those who refuted their article - again showing that evolution cannot stand the light of scrutiny. The rebuttal is 15 Answers to John Rennie and SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN's Nonsense (by Bert Thompson and Brad Harrub

There is plenty of Evidence Disproving Evolution , solid scientific evidence, as well as plenty of Amazing Creatures which are totally unexplainable by evolution. All one needs to see the falsity of the theory is to open one's eyes to the real scientific facts not to the rhetoric of pseudo-scientists.

[Right Wing Professor]

I say if you question Dr. Hovind's ability, put it to the test

What if we question his integrity? Buying a degree from a storefront degree mill and then calling yourself 'Dr' isn't a hopeful sign we'll get an honest discussion.