Posted on 07/09/2003 12:08:32 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
BTW 'Freak' is duplicated in the first section. Please substitute 'humorless pedant'.
:-)
Care to try again?
You weren't supposed to READ the links. They were like the links on designeduniverse -- intended to give the impression of vast scientific support for a position, but heaven forbid you actually read them.
Another thinly veiled anti-Christian insult. Tell you what, go read the U.S. Constitution until it sinks in.
If they want to teach the kids the Wicca religion instead of science, is that OK? Community standards and all that.
Show me in the Constitution where it says that the Federal Govt is in charge of enforcing science curriculum. This is a free country - this isn't China or N. Korea or Cuba. In this country, there is individual freedom. If people in some backwoods Manhattan (hehe) community want to teach Wicca, the govt has no right to stop them. The people rule in this country, not a group of 9 black-robed oligarchs. The issue is personal freedom! Get that thru your head. I don't give a flip what you think about my community - you don't live here and you have no right to tell us how to live. Get that thru your thick skull.
Already discussed earlier in the thread. Read the thread. Govt school curriculum (wherever applicable) is wholly consistent with atheism, just as teaching design would be consistent with theism - and they don't allow that.
That would be nice if the govt would leave homeschoolers alone, but they don't.
I don't dispute your right to teach your unfortunate kids any bizarre idiocy you want. What I do dispute is your right to force me to accept such nonsense as 'biology'. Capisci?
Prophecy fulfilled in spades, ruffles and flourishes, oak-leaf cluster. Big time.
Indeed!
We agree. I only hope you apply that as a general principle.
That would be because it is not consistent with science.
Dang. The sources of the original fake Darwin quote posted by ALS wasn't on the net. I had to get the book and scan it. He went even further than simply quoting out of context. What was presented as a single quote from a letter turned out to be assembled from two partial sentences from tow separate letters to two different recipients. to top that off, the quote started with a capital letter, even though it started in midsentence.
Needless to say, the full context demonstrated that the fabricated quote said the opposite of what what the author intended.
That thread got pulled pretty soon thereafter, but I have the material to recreate the context. An the fabricated quote is heavily featured on many creationist websites. Shamelessly.
Teaching anything other than Genesis might (or might not) be consistent with atheism. Being consistent with atheism is easy, which why you have fallen behind this weasel-wording instead of defending your earlier claim of government schools teaching atheism. Foam at the mouth, make wild and false claims, then distract and slide the bar.
Teaching design would make more sense if there existed some evidence for a designer or a design process, if there were a body of scientific knowledge behind that label, if "design" were anything but a publicly proclaimed wedge strategy for creationism.
He's all yours. Out for a few before the rest of my life falls apart.
Unfortunately you are correct if "The Mysterious Origins of Man with Charlton Heston" is an example of our level of education.
BTW, creationism/ID is nothing more than a disguised religion being pushed across this country.
If you want to keep your kids away from the best scientific theory we have for the diversity of life, that’s your business. However, pushing a disguised religion into the science class, IMHO, is adding to the erosion of the education of our children.
How about the Earth is flat? Should that be taught just because you "have a say"?
So I'm not allowed an opinion on the content of schoolbooks in Texas, but the opinion of the Discovery Institute of Seattle, funded by unnamed millionaires from site unknown, would seem to be most welcome. Is Seattle in Texas now?
Well, let's read Hitler's own words:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross."
Hitler, of course, was not "inspired" by Christianity to kill Jews; he was using words that he thought would appeal to his audience. But just as Hitler's appeal to Jesus doesn't discredit Christianity, his appeals to "science" do not discredit evolution.
Sounds funny, but prominent creo Malcom Bowden is still a geocentrist if not a flat-earther. They use his stuff a lot, while deemphasizing the peculiarity of his flavor.
OK, I was slow getting out of my chair but now I'm outta here for a few.
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