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I Still Think of Elian
Jewish World Review ^ | April 29, 2003 | Nat Hentoff

Posted on 04/29/2003 9:44:16 AM PDT by William Wallace

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To: Ready4Freddy
"The Cuban Adjustment Act is the only such law in the world that offers these privileges – allowing Cubans who arrive in the United States to be the only immigrant group that automatically and immediately receives a working permit, does not have to submit an affidavit of support to become lawful residents, gets a social security number and public benefits for food and accommodation, adjusts their status without having to return to their country of origin to receive it (as in the case of applicants from other nationalities) and does not need lawyers or money to get the benefit of blanket parole."

" By virtue of the commitments made by both Parties in the Migration Accords signed in 1994, their mutual interest in normalizing migration procedures was then recognized – for which, regarding safety at sea, recognition was also given to their common interest in preventing the unsafe departures from Cuba that endanger life. In that sense, the United States would discontinue its practice of paroling all Cuban immigrants reaching US territory in irregular ways and Cuba would take effective measures in every way possible to prevent unsafe departures by using mainly persuasive methods."---Source

381 posted on 05/02/2003 8:27:09 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: borderwatch200
"Since Reno, as the U.S. Attorney General headed all 3 branches of gov't.: INS, FBI and U.S. Justice Dep't"---Civics101 by borderwatch


382 posted on 05/02/2003 8:34:03 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
This is quite curious, Luis....

I ask (quite rerasonably, I think) that you post the US law and / or procedures to support your assertions about the CAA, yet you have now twice posted some kind of talking points propaganda from the Cuba Interests Section.....

Surely you don't think that something from the CIS is adequate support? You indicated in your first post of it that you knew that it was coming from 'the Commies', so ignorance isn't an excuse here, at least.

383 posted on 05/02/2003 8:40:25 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: Ready4Freddy
I've posted the words of Clinton's 1994 agreement stating quite plainly that the US will stop the 35 year-old practice of admitting any Cuban who enters the US via other than regular means...why would Clinton have to agree to something that wasn't going on?

Now I've posted supporting text from the other side of the issue confirming that indeed this is the way the law has been interpreted for 35 years.

Proof positive , that in practice the CAA does exactly what I've said it does.

384 posted on 05/02/2003 8:45:29 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
And in spite of the Clinton created wet foot/dry foot policy (one of the many, many points I have already refuted you on), it was still the practice, even during the Clinton Administration, to automatically grant parolee status, and all the benefits available under the CAA, including fast track residency, to any Cuban migrant who reached US soil.
385 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: borderwatch200

Sorry -- but not surprised -- that so many are so ignorant

Charley Reese

Well, it's no surprise that the Supreme Court sent Elian Gonzalez back to a communist dictatorship and ruled that Nebraska could not legislate against infanticide.

After all, the same court had earlier seen a threat in a student leading a prayer in a football stadium. Not a good week for children, as far as the Supreme Court went. Not a good week for morality or the Constitution either.

I'm sorry to see Elian being taken back to Cuba, but I'm even sorrier to see so many Americans ignorant of or indifferent about the communist dictatorship in Cuba. Remember, I said sorry not surprised.

A recent news story reported that 80 percent of the seniors from the top 55 colleges and universities -- including Harvard and Princeton -- scored a D or an F on a 34-question American history test. The people who did the study said that 99 percent of the students could identify Beavis and Butthead, two sick television characters, but that only 23 percent identified James Madison as the principal framer of the Constitution.

Now, these young men and women have had 16 or 17 years of formal education. And still they're ignorant as toads about the history of their own country. Are your children in public schools? Why?

It appears to be largely a consumer fraud.
So, if ignorance of their own country is so widespread, it's no surprise that so many Americans seem to think that Fidel Castro is no worse than a grouchy cigar salesman. I'm quite sure most Americans don't realize that prior to Castro, Cuba had the highest standard of living in Latin America. Now it's close to the bottom.

And I just love all these news analysts saying the Cuban-American community in Florida has lost its political clout. That just shows you how stupid someone who purports to be an analyst can be. In the first place, the fight for Elian was in the courts, and Cuban-Americans never
said they had clout in the courts. They have all along been willing to accept the decisions of the courts. This was a legal battle not a political battle.
If you think Cuban-Americans have lost their political clout, then alienate them, and see if you can win a statewide election or an election in Miami-Dade County. The only clout they've ever had is that they are intelligent and hard-working, and they're willing to put their money where their mouths are and vote.

In other words, unlike so many of their critics, they do their duty as American citizens. They do know history, and they do not have defective memories.
They do all of this, by the way, because, unlike so many of their critics, Cuban-Americans do indeed dearly love this country, and they've proved it in every way a human being can. The only thing they wanted for Elian was the liberty his mother died trying to give him.

The child will be treated with psychiatric drugs, if he hasn't already been, to erase his memory so his communist mentors can start re-programming him with a clean slate. Not even 6-year-olds, if they speak favorably of freedom, are tolerated in Castro's prison land. For as long as Elian remains in a communist Cuba, he will never have the freedom to express his thoughts without fear.
I will pray that he not become like his father -- a willing servant of tyranny.

In this tragic episode, only the Cuban-Americans in Miami emerge as heroes. They stood up for liberty and yet respected the law. They have set an example that other Americans could profit from by studying it.

As for those who mock and despise the Cuban-Americans, hey, the enemies of liberty always hate the lovers of liberty just as cowards always resent the brave.

Published in The Orlando Sentinel on July 06, 2000

386 posted on 05/02/2003 8:50:06 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Proof positive , that in practice the CAA does exactly what I've said it does."

Only if you consider admitted Commie talking points to be superior support for your argument, Luis. I don't, but YMMV.

387 posted on 05/02/2003 8:54:27 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: borderwatch200
"Miami's population in 1905 was 5,000. In 1920 it was already up to 150,000! So, how could you and Cuban exiles proclaim coming about the 1960 area and have the nerve to tell us a lie by saying you and other Cuban exiles came to Miami and built it?"

Kinda sounds like someone we know has that Islamic disease, make history up if it doesn't suit you, then defend the lie to the death. Take umbrage with those that know the facts, throw a temper tamtrum, then demand sympathy, if all else fails, blow something up, hahaha.

388 posted on 05/02/2003 9:19:22 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Ready4Freddy
Prove that's not the way the CAA has been interpreted for the past 35 years.

Then explain why Clinton promised to stop something you claim never happened.
389 posted on 05/02/2003 9:20:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
To use your favorite hit and run tactic...what does some one from Texas know about Miami anyway.

Then again, I don't find it surprising you coming to the aid of a fellow Clinton admirer.
390 posted on 05/02/2003 9:21:58 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Gee, Luis, I guess I know about Miami because way back in 1746 some of my relatives lived in Georgia, before that some of my Cherokee relatives made regular hunting parties to the area.

I don't think knowing the law and the powers stated for the Attorney General actually makes borderwatch a Clinton admirer. As an immigration attorney do you have a different perspective on the powers of the Attorney General? Do you really need someone who does not hold a law degree to clue you in?
391 posted on 05/02/2003 9:36:30 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Gee, Luis, I guess I know about Miami because way back in 1746 some of my relatives lived in Georgia."

HEY!

I had relatives just south of you!

They lived in St. Augustine, Florida from 1671 to about 1812.

393 posted on 05/02/2003 9:40:43 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I'm suprised the Cherokee nation let them stay, after all we have been here about a thousand years at best estimates, and we are smart enough to know who built Miami.=o)
394 posted on 05/02/2003 9:46:37 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: borderwatch200
"Luis: You never answered my question as to why you are a close friend of Demetrio Perez,Jr."

Because that, along with the rest of your posts, is a lie.

397 posted on 05/02/2003 10:28:58 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Of copurse you;re surprised, you have zero knowledge of the History of this nation.
398 posted on 05/02/2003 10:29:46 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Of copurse"??? You tippin the tequilla tonight or are you just excited to see me?
399 posted on 05/02/2003 10:53:32 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
What?

No good Mexican threads tonight?

No Tequila, no alcohol at all for me...must have me confused with your Daddy.
400 posted on 05/02/2003 10:59:30 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (When the elephants are stampeding, don't worry about the pissants.)
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