Dad who pluggedprowler spurns deal

New York Daily News ^ | 4/08/03 | NANCIE L. KATZ

[algol]

Fine, we live in a Counsitutional [sic] Republic. And please feel free to break every single law you feel is against the counstitution [sic]. The Counstitution [sic] doesn't say a thing about a speed limit, or DUI.'

You're right that the Constitution is mute on speed limits or DUI. This means that laws regarding same cannot be unconstitutional, as such, since the Constitution says nothing one way or the other. (Except federal laws which unconstitutionally violate states' rights.)

However, the Constitution, as amended, does say something about the right to keep and bear arms, namely that it not be infringed.

when the law and I run into a conflict, I'll work to change the law within the confines of the established court system.

Well, disobeying the law, being charged and tried, and having the judge (or jury) throw it out because the law is unconstitutional is working "within the confines of the established court system", but somehow I don't think that's what you had in mind.

[demosthenes the elder]

Very well.
Next time I have a reason to travel by air, I will attempt to get past the goons at the gate with my beloved and ever loaded .45.
I will almost certainly need help with my legal defense fund when that day arrives: Do I have your plighted word of support?

[demosthenes the elder]

Chainmail isn't rated on the ballistic scale - do you think that law applies?
I wonder what the SCA types resident in Maryland have to say about that.

[eno_]

You are selliing us short: The constitution enumerates federal powers. Anything it is mute on is NOT a priori fair game for federal law.

Unenumerated rights belong to states and individuals.

[from occupied ga]

Do I have your plighted word of support

Better get it in writing. GA law does not recognize verbal contracts

[SgtofMarines]

Thanks for the welcome.

Perhaps... until you have to shoot someone. Then there's muss and fuss aplenty.

[ninenot]

by exercising his constitutional right to protect his family

Actually, it's beyond 'constitutional.' It is a God-given right under natural law. It is inalienable. If the Constitution expressly forbid self-defense, the Constitution would be wrong, and happily ignored.

[BJungNan]

"I don't want to hear this from anyone unless they've demonstrated their commitment to this principle by trying to board a domestic flight while carrying a firearm. Let me know how it works out..." I hate repeating myself.

You are a bit mixed up my friend. Trying to board a domestic flight while carrying a firearm is stupid, the law preventing it is not. I can see why you hate repeating yourself.

[demosthenes the elder]

point.

[Jim Noble]

I think it's intention is good (account for gun in the hands of gangs, felons, and assorted crimials) and the punishment phase is a good thing (if found where they are forbidden, make them pay).

How many gang (member)s, felons, and assorted criminals are prevented from having a gun in NYC by this unconstitutional law?

How many law abiding citizens are?

[SgtofMarines]

Thank you for the welocome.

The NRA and SAF have plenty of my money for exactly this sort of thing.

[ninenot]

Exactly who decides which of us are "lunatics"?

Enlightened Ones ("Illuminati") such as AllSmiles.

[Critter]

But the DA also took an oath to uphold the law. We all agree that the law, in it's present form is (seriously) flawed.

I see a chink developing in his armor. A small one, but a chink none the less. :)

The Constitution is the supreme law of this land. The DA's oath to uphold it, trumps the oath to uphold "the law", since it is the supreme law.

[Gritty]

He had filled out the paperwork? You think that's what the law is in NYS?

I agree with the others. Please stay in New York. You have found just the place to live and be happy, living under stupid laws passed by stupid, control-freak Liberals who want to run your life and take your freedoms all the while telling you they are doing it for your own good. Most of the people in NYC just love the likes of Hillary and Schumer. That tells you all you need to know about where they are coming from!

Me? I was born in Brooklyn. I lived in New York for years. But, I have moved, partly to escape the suffocating laws, confiscatory income taxes, and utter stupidity of the politicians and partly because their policies ruined the industry I was in and I had to leave while the getting out out was good. Now, I live in a State where the people are treated as citizens, not serfs to be exploited and abused at will. Best move I ever made!

Please, stay there. We have enough stupid New Yorkers who move here when they get tired of the mess they have made there but then come here and bring their suffocating attitudes with them.

[from occupied ga]

do you think that law applies?

Most probably a de facto yes. Maryland is an anti-freedom Marxist cesspit where all of the politicians, all of the JBTs, all of the bureaucrats, and most of the people hate, fear, and envy those who have any freedom and would attempt to punish you for it. If the law didn't technically apply, they would still prosecute you anyway.

[gatex]

..."He could have stayed in Florida until he had gotten a pistol permit...."

Explain how he could do this.

[hattend]

Fine, we live in a Counsitutional Republic. And please feel free to break every single law you feel is against the counstitution. The Counstitution doesn't say a thing about a speed limit, or DUI. Knock youself out. Hopefully, the DA will chose to ignore those laws you break when they pertain to you. As for me, I'll follow the laws; and when the law and I run into a conflict, I'll work to change the law within the confines of the established court system.

Read the 10th Amendment. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

State DUI laws and speed limit laws are constitutional since they are neither delegated to federal jurisdiction or prohibited by the Constitution.

[SgtofMarines]

The law prohibiting firearms on airplanes is perhaps not stupid, but it is unconstitutional.

[demosthenes the elder]

the law is stupid.
I have a GA CCW permit.
To get said permit, I had to undergo G.B.I. AND F.B.I. background checks, including medical records (looking for institutional incarceration for mental instability).
I am cleared by both to carry a gun almost anywhere in the state of Georgia.
If I am good-to-go in Georgia, why not ABOVE Georgia?
If I am cleared by the FEDERAL Bureau, why cannot I fly while armed to any point in the United States?

I concede a valid need to limit the type of ammunition I have in the gun, so that there is no chance of penetrating the aircraft's hull. That is the only point I concede. The rest is dross.

[HairOfTheDog]

State DUI laws and speed limit laws are constitutional since they are neither delegated to federal jurisdiction or prohibited by the Constitution.

Hello, jumping in late here. OK... Federal aircraft and pilot licensing? - Air traffic control and flight rules? Do we also have a right to not have Federal Aviation Regulations imposed on us? They are legally equivalent to driving regs, but are federal.