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Seize marijuana market from criminal class
The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, VA) ^ | 2/9/2003 | Kevin B. Zeese

Posted on 02/11/2003 6:49:57 AM PST by MrLeRoy

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To: avenir
How would you like your evidence: from the literature or anecdotal?

Anecdotes are not evidence.

In my reading on drug use,

What did you read?

This link seems to discuss the 60's connection fairly well if you're interested: Marijuana and Ginsberg

No evidence for your claim there.

21 posted on 02/11/2003 7:46:09 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
"Alcohol is the original date-rape drug."

Who can deny alcohol has been a contributing factor in all kinds of sexual adventures? It's ability to lead you where you couldn't go otherwise—due to morals/inhibitions/complexes/etc.—is legendary.

Little secret about pot, though: If you have a sex drive prepare to have it magnified. Pot magnifies alot of things, especially when you are a chronic user working the happy-happy tip (before Mary J drags you down-down into depression...oh, it magnifies that too!).

22 posted on 02/11/2003 7:46:33 AM PST by avenir (Not responsible for veracity of anecdotal evidence, caveat emptor)
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To: SirFishalot
So based on that, I don't feel pot should be legalized.

So, you think cannabis should not be legalized because it would cause at a lesser degree what it is causing now?

23 posted on 02/11/2003 7:47:06 AM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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To: SirFishalot
This has lead to wide spread bootlegging, shipment thefts, and smuggling in many places such as here in New York.

All the better. The more resources they spend chasing after the tobacco folks, the less spent on chasing me.

24 posted on 02/11/2003 7:48:13 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MrLeRoy
Why did I just get a hilarious picture of you as McLaughlin a la Dana Carvey spoofing the McLaughlin Group? And a loud buzzer every time you diss a point?

LOL.
25 posted on 02/11/2003 7:50:28 AM PST by avenir (Not responsible for veracity of anecdotal evidence, caveat emptor)
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To: SirFishalot
Since pot is, in my very informed opinion, at least as dangerous if not more than tobacco,

Provide evidence for your claim.

I can only see legalization leading to the same scenario as above. That means to me that trial lawyers will benefit,

I don't like trial lawyers---or used car salesmen. Shall we ban used car sales so used car salesmen don't benefit?

taxes will affect the poor far more than anyone else,

They have the choice to not buy the taxed item and thus not pay the tax.

and bootlegging will thrive anyways.

Cigarette bootlegging is small potatoes compared to marijuana smuggling; how many innocents have died in shootouts between cigarette bootleggers?

26 posted on 02/11/2003 7:50:38 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: avenir
Little secret about pot, though: If you have a sex drive prepare to have it magnified.

Provide evidence for your claim. Then explain how a woman's enhanced sex drive could lead to her being raped.

27 posted on 02/11/2003 7:52:29 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: E Rocc
In its implication that legality implies government approval, it goes beyond mere statism and approaches totalitarianism.

That is an excellent point. For the drug war zealots, the government is the nexus of and final arbiter of societal standards and morals. This is where supporters of the drug wars find kinship with socialism, yet they deride the libertarian minded and try to link them with the left on this issue - how ironic.

28 posted on 02/11/2003 7:52:47 AM PST by citizenK
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To: MrLeRoy
Yawn. With intellects like those that assemble on your daily whines it's no wonder you folks have been winning the war on drugs all these years.

I know when I watched the news this morning it was full of stories on how the public is rising up and demanding the government remove the yoke of drug laws from their neck; protesters in every street.

The newspaper was just as grim. Article after article on how the public was overwhelming in support of making dope legal and was tired of the Bush administration's lies about drug use.

Well...actually there anything on the TV news other then a meth lab was busted and it's freedom fighters arrested. Damn, three more libertarian voters who won't vote next time around.

29 posted on 02/11/2003 7:53:37 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
It is amusing to observe how they don't allow minor annoyances such as war distract them from their petty crusade.

I completely agree. The prohibitionists are obsessed.

30 posted on 02/11/2003 7:54:56 AM PST by The FRugitive
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To: CWOJackson
Well...actually there anything on the TV news other then a meth lab was busted and it's freedom fighters arrested. Damn, three more libertarian voters who won't vote next time around.

How would drug dealers profit from an end of the WOD?
31 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:17 AM PST by SkyRat (If privacy wasn't of value, we wouldn't have doors on bathrooms.)
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To: CWOJackson
It is amusing to observe how they don't allow minor annoyances such as war distract them from their petty crusade.

Even more amusing is you, here, always posting the exact same "who cares" eye-roller to every W.o.D. thread. If you don't care, or if you think the issue's frivolous, why the hell are you always on these threads?

32 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: William Terrell
I don't see that legalizing it will "cause at a lesser degree what it is causing now". I see it creating more problems. I do think however that the sentences for pot should be lowered for the casual user. I also believe that doctors should be able to prescribe it.
33 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:40 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: CWOJackson
the public is rising up and demanding the government remove the yoke of drug laws from their neck

It's not; what's your point? The public is not rising up and demanding the government go to war with Iraq, either---so should we not go?

34 posted on 02/11/2003 7:57:57 AM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: All
By, bye all. Please resume running around reassuring each other that the public cares and that you're winning the war on dope.
35 posted on 02/11/2003 7:58:10 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"...why the hell are you always on these threads?"

Ah, that's easy. It's so much fun to remind you folks just how impotent you are in the war on drugs. It drives you folks insane knowing that everyday you post the same thing, and every day a few more of your friends are going to do time and that the public just doesn't listen to you.

I get a kick out of stirring the pot(heads) and watching them go ballistic in reply.

36 posted on 02/11/2003 8:02:22 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
I get a kick out of stirring the pot(heads) and watching them go ballistic in reply.

So basically, you're a narcissist. Go whack off elsewhere then, will ya?

37 posted on 02/11/2003 8:04:06 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"Go whack off elsewhere then, will ya?"

And miss the morning doper circle jerk? I don't think so.

38 posted on 02/11/2003 8:06:21 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
WOD Troll
39 posted on 02/11/2003 8:08:50 AM PST by clamper1797 (If we wanted the oil ... we'd just buy it.)
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To: CWOJackson
Troll.
40 posted on 02/11/2003 8:09:53 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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