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At War on the Border:First drug dealers, next a wave of illegal immigration,then fear of terrorists
Tuscon Weekly ^ | Leo W. Banks

Posted on 12/24/2002 1:18:42 PM PST by sarcasm

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1 posted on 12/24/2002 1:18:42 PM PST by sarcasm
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2 posted on 12/24/2002 1:19:44 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Bump for later read
3 posted on 12/24/2002 1:20:26 PM PST by Sparta
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Plato said only the dead have seen an end to war," he says. "I think conflict is coming."

Yeah, well the invasion happened already.

4 posted on 12/24/2002 1:23:27 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: sarcasm
Too bad Colonel Patton isn't available any longer.

L

5 posted on 12/24/2002 1:26:08 PM PST by Lurker
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To: sarcasm
Bttt!
6 posted on 12/24/2002 1:28:36 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: ex-Texan
LOL! And continues....
7 posted on 12/24/2002 1:30:23 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: sarcasm; Sabertooth
Got to send this to some friends!
8 posted on 12/24/2002 1:35:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: sarcasm
so-called illegal immigrants crossing into this country without proper documents,

"So called," huh? What do you call it when someone illegally enters the country. I believe that this is a part of the deliberate balkanization of America, to run down all that this country is great for, to purposely teach the young only bad things about this country, and then make citizenship appear worthless, that being an American citizen is nothing more than "luck of birth," in order to bring down the country.

I have no idea why the media works SO HARD to drive the US to this state, when it's only in the US that there's a truely free media. I suppose that they believe that with their support of tyrants, they'll be able to do what they will once tyranny is established.

Mark

9 posted on 12/24/2002 1:45:06 PM PST by MarkL
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To: sarcasm
But when you turn around and find illegals standing in your kitchen, how do you avoid them? When you're a woman alone and you step from the corral and suddenly find yourself surrounded by 35 men, how do you avoid them?

You don't avoid them. You make them avoid you. It's called 12 guage diplomacy.

10 posted on 12/24/2002 1:51:24 PM PST by RLK
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To: madfly
I think that you have a better ping list.
11 posted on 12/24/2002 1:59:14 PM PST by sarcasm
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You don't avoid them. You make them avoid you. It's called 12 guage diplomacy.

Probably be classified as a "hate" crime.

12 posted on 12/24/2002 2:00:43 PM PST by sarcasm
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I think live video feeds are an excellent idea if they can get them shown.  Most people don't see the effects of the invasion or either choose to ignore it.  Putting it live in front of their faces could change some minds IMO.

Isn't it funny private citizens can do what the government won't do?

This thing will come to a head at some point.  How many more Americans have to die first is the question.  Homeland security is a total joke as long as anyone can cross our borders at their convenience.  At best these are all law breakers, at worst we are allowing more terrorists into the country and the border patrol sits helplessly by while it happens.

It is going to take a lot of light shed on this subject to get the powers that be in Washington to do anything about it.

Even if we solved the problem of illegal mexicans which would be relatively easy that would not remove the danger of terrorists crossing the border, or the drug traffickers.

Good article, I read the whole thing.  I wonder just how many sitting here on FR at their keyboards would like to live under the conditions the ranchers on the border are living under.

WarHawk42

13 posted on 12/24/2002 2:01:40 PM PST by WarHawk42
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That might be the best-kept secret of the border wars, the number of OTMs--Other Than Mexicans--entering the U.S. It's a secret because the Border Patrol won't break down by country the apprehension statistics it releases publicly.

"Since September 11, we're restricted in what we can say about OTMs because of national security," says Border Patrol spokesman Rob Daniels.

If the agency did release OTM numbers, the public might register alarm to learn that among those arrested in Arizona in 2002 were six nationals from Egypt, two from Lebanon, three from Yemen and one from Iraq.

These figures, provided by an INS source who asked to remain anonymous, also showed nationals from Sudan, Cuba, China, Jordan, North Korea and the Philippines, the latter a place where American forces are currently on the ground fighting groups affiliated with al-Qaida.

The OTM numbers are a small fraction of the number of Mexicans apprehended in Arizona 2002--375,000. But the figures represent only apprehensions in Arizona, and remember, five times that number got through.

Moreover, OTMs crossings have grown markedly of late, and it only takes a few with bad intentions to create havoc, as the country learned on September 11, 2001.

I have a ping list that would be interested in this! Here is a lengthy but important document which should be read by all!

Jihadis in the Hood
Race, Urban Islam and the War on Terror

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14 posted on 12/24/2002 2:28:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: sarcasm
Link here:

American Border Patrol Satellite
Video Testing Successful

15 posted on 12/24/2002 2:30:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: WarHawk42
I'd live under their conditions. The question is, how long would I stay out of prison? The states along the border allow Class III weapons - which I would carry and use. My property line would consist of triple stranded concertina wire and a long pungi filled trench, with signs in Spanish every 25 yards stating that to cross here meant your death. The first group to not heed that warning would meet that fate, and the legal hassles would start.

Whatever happened to being able to protect your own land?
16 posted on 12/24/2002 2:31:34 PM PST by 11B3
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From your linked site.

"a Border Patrol agent approached Spencer and asked if the group was with American Border Patrol. When told yes, he said, "Thank God for you people."

How will anyone at the Fed level be able to pretend they didn't know it was this bad? After reading these stories, (and the comment by the BP agent) I have to believe these poor people have probably screamed to Washington for help for a very long time. This is truly disgraceful.

17 posted on 12/24/2002 2:40:01 PM PST by monkeywrench
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Great article ping!
18 posted on 12/24/2002 2:46:45 PM PST by madfly
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ping
19 posted on 12/24/2002 2:51:36 PM PST by madfly
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To: sarcasm
I decided this year to do something charitable for my fellow Americans, rather than donate to a charity that will feed, clothe and give toys to these intruders, I would take the money and send it where it's really needed.
20 posted on 12/24/2002 3:02:15 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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