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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

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To: Fester Chugabrew
and Nostradamus and Revelations hold weight in your world as well, I guess. how about Miss Cleo? Sheesh.
2,281 posted on 01/02/2003 2:20:08 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I don't think there's much divine mystery behind early observations that the body is mostly water. Observing what happens to a dead body in the desert provides some easy (and obvious) clues about the ratio of tissue to water, and mummification is itself a pretty ancient art.
2,282 posted on 01/02/2003 2:20:18 PM PST by atlaw
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To: longshadow
If you examine the posting history of "titanmike" you'll see that he copiously sprinkled clues to his identity. He wanted us to know it's him.

Actually, I think it was bugging him that nobody cared that he was back. Then he resorted to the same old Ted-tactics so that someone would finally get tired of him again. He should just give it up and try out for the latest Three Stooges Revival.

2,283 posted on 01/02/2003 2:20:42 PM PST by balrog666
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To: B. Rabbit
Yeah trivia scrabble science...evolution---parker brothers!

Hope I did help you!

The tentacles of liberalism run deep---long!
2,284 posted on 01/02/2003 2:24:39 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: B. Rabbit
DEVILCRATS...

Judas/long hair/hippie = communism/EVOLUTION---DARWIN/MARX/ENGLE---Stalin/lenin/SATAN!

vs.

REPUBLICANS...

JESUS/Christianity/Short hair/businessman = capitalist/science/creation

OPPOSITE

2,285 posted on 01/02/2003 2:36:27 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: balrog666
Actually, I think it was bugging him that nobody cared that he was back.

That may be it. I even told him, in post 1879, that his current persona wasn't objectionable. So I guess he had to push the pedal to the floor.

2,286 posted on 01/02/2003 2:38:17 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
That article was written by Charles Colson, an evangelical Christian. I doubt he believes in evolution.
2,287 posted on 01/02/2003 3:01:47 PM PST by lasereye
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Again, you avoid the point to argue about word meanings"

You're the one who "made the point" that our forefathers left "god" out of the picture, right?

Wrong, you made that point in an effort to dodge mine. [see below]

Why do you accuse me of avoiding the point when I state that our forefathers made many references to God in their writings?

Because that point is obvious, and not at issue, which you well know. You're playing debate games.

Here was my first comment to you, at 2114, which 'controverted' your "common sense" wisecrack.
You still haven't recovered face:

When it comes to existence and how things came to be the way they are right now, however, there are only TWO possibilities I know of. One of them has been - for reasons unknown to common sense - utterly squelched from the public school system for nearly a century. 2106 -FC-

'Unknown' Fester? We have a tradition, -- separarion of church & state. If we must have state supported schools, they must avoid teaching religious theory, as per the 1st. #2114

2,288 posted on 01/02/2003 3:21:53 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Some tradition...

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...

Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---REDACTED and made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling/CHANGING all the... residuals---technology/science === TO evolution

...via...

schlock/sMUCK IDEOLOGY/lies/bias...to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION(USSC monopoly)--and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY(breaking the establishment clause)...against God--man--society/FREEDOM/LIBERTY/SCIENCE!!

2,289 posted on 01/02/2003 3:29:54 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Junior
Placemarker Junior (just ¢99 with any purchase).
2,290 posted on 01/02/2003 3:46:17 PM PST by Junior
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To: lasereye
That article was written by Charles Colson, an evangelical Christian. I doubt he believes in evolution.

So far the score for grasping the relevance of that link (post 2275) to the evolution/creationism debate is:

Would-be sharpshooters = 0
Broad side of the barn = 1

2,291 posted on 01/02/2003 4:40:47 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
``I was a communist(social/political darwinist)* for 30 years...

and I listened to so much of this demagoguery(ideology/bias)* that now---

with my democratic(God/Truth/science)* views---

I can... no longer(link)---stand it,''

*...my additions!

2,292 posted on 01/02/2003 4:50:11 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: donh
Absolutely false. They are not even different species (as evolutionists continue to claim after it has been disproven). The beaks of the finches grow larger and smaller according to rainfall. They go back and forth in size within a few years. This is adaptation, not mutation and is therefore not evolution. This has been known since 1980 when it was published in a Pulitzer Prize Winning book but evolutionists continue to tell this lie.-me-

More blue science in action. 3000 is mis-representing "The Beak of the Finch", which field report's primary point was that the finches varied because their diets had specialized, with the beaks matching against the various food source specializations.That the beaks varied in size with availability is no more relevant to this central point than the fact that humans average size increases with dietary improvement.

You attack me for saying this is not evolution, yet if overeating (or undereating) makes a man a different species, you would be the first person to say it. The size of the beak goes up and down according to rainfall. Evolution would require this to be a uni-directional change (always growing larger or smaller). Instead beak size swings back and forth like a pendulum and hence is not evolution but adaptation. The facts however, do not matter to evolutionists so they continue to tell this lie.

2,293 posted on 01/02/2003 5:46:00 PM PST by gore3000
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To: general_re
Neither do I, but science class is not a public arena.

True, it is a place for science, real science to be taught. Evolution is not science for numerous reasons which have been explained here at length. There is absolutely no reason to teach evolution. All it has done is to promote atheism and waste scientific resources on wild goose chases for bones which have never been a source of any scientific discoveries that benefit mankind. Evolution has also never been a source of ideas for scientific inquiry but instead has held back scientific inquiry. Best example of this is junk DNA. Only evolutionists would be so arrogant (or so dishonest) as to claim that 95% of the human genome - whihc is replicated in almost all the 100 trillion cells in the body - is junk and is just there so we can look for traces of evolutionary descent. Such arrogance, or such dishonest, was of course discredited shortly after that ridiculous claim was made. Instead, what science soon found was that it is not the genes that are the active managers of living things, genes are just factories which need management, but the DNA that evolutionists called junk. Luckily real scientists do not pay attention to the idiot evolutionists.

2,294 posted on 01/02/2003 6:06:14 PM PST by gore3000
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To: donh
the assumption that a designer therefore must exist, however, omits some important common steps in critical analysis of evidence you'd never get away with in a decently run courtroom.

Not true at all. Scientifically speaking for example, the chances of abiogenesis being true are far, far less by an unimaginable order of magnitude greater than the 1 in a billion chance of the DNA found in the OJ case was someone elses.

2,295 posted on 01/02/2003 6:13:37 PM PST by gore3000
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To: donh
What I cannot abide, is teaching them something is science (or somehow mysteriously "stands on par" with science), when it isn't.

Well, I cannot stand that either. Science is about observed facts, evolution has never been observed. There also is not the least bit of evidence that any species is undergoing any kind of evolutionary transformation into another species.

2,296 posted on 01/02/2003 6:16:31 PM PST by gore3000
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Nope he did not refute my statement that gravity is a fact with tons of observation behind it and that evolution has never been observed: -me- No one has "seen" gravity, either.

To deny that gravity has not been scientifically observed is totally ludicrous. If you wish to see it for yourself though, just go on top of a 20 story building and jump. You will observe it very clearly.

2,297 posted on 01/02/2003 6:18:30 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
If you wish to see it for yourself though, just go on top of a 20 story building and jump. You will observe it very clearly.

Nope. You will observe the effects of gravity. You will not observe gravity itself. What if I go to the top of a 20 story building and drop a helium balloon? Would this also result in an observation of gravity? How come gravity affects people but not helium balloons?

You know, you can very easily put this debate to rest and prove everyone else wrong just by describing gravity. That you cannot can only be construed as a flaw in your position.

2,298 posted on 01/02/2003 6:34:55 PM PST by Condorman
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To: Condorman
Gravity---lighter elements go up!
2,299 posted on 01/02/2003 6:36:46 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
"The deathbed mental condition of the originator of the theory is not important to the quality of the theory."

That stupid remark doesn't even deserve a response except the one I'm writing right now.

Evolutionists. Will they ever get back to reality?

No of course not. It will make them accountable for their actions, and the way most live, it would be totally unbeartable on Judgement Day!!!

2,300 posted on 01/02/2003 6:39:13 PM PST by webber
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