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Mexican Anti-Americanism in America: Mexicans who choose a better a life in America, hate America
frontpagemag.com ^ | 12-06-02 | David Montgomery

Posted on 12/06/2002 4:58:23 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson
We need to kick out those illegals (an exception could be made for those of good health, superior intelligence, and who possess a loyalty to our Constitution), and send the corrupt Mexican government a bill for our trouble.

If they refuse to pay (as the surely will, typical of any third-worlder), we should invade, and take enough land to cover their debt, as well as any expenses we occur.

The southermost 5 miles of this land could be designed a border "kill zone" to prevent the problem from occuring again. The remaining land could be auctioned off to Americans and divided into several states.

81 posted on 12/07/2002 3:55:00 PM PST by Mulder
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To: SJackson; hchutch; RonDog
This is a very interesting article, and I thank you for posting it.

Last year, I decided to check out some Mexican culture by visiting the Cinco de Mayo celebration on Olvera Street in Downtown LA. There were lots of booths and huge crowds. Many of the booths were selling clothing and books expressing exactly the opinions mentioned in this essay, including a quite unseemly hatred for the US.

I am basically a moderate on the immigration issue - I think foreigners should be allowed in as long as they are coming to work. I don't think of an illegal Mexican as any less welcome than, say, a high tech worker on the H1B program. We have a shortage of all kinds of workers in this country.

But even I have a problem with people who want to undermine our country and system. I'm not saying our system's perfect, but compared to what other nations have, it looks awfully good. I wish the Mexicans would stop and think why they are in America to begin with. Much of Mexico has charming, Carribean style climate and a far lower cost of living. We have a horribly high cost of living in Southern California, but we are very much the land of opportunity.

If I were a touch more violently inclined, I would wish that the army of illegal alien haters would fight a war with MEChA and the like, leaving only the reasonable nice people behind :-). That makes a nice joke, but I fear there would be too much collateral damage.

This article definitely makes me reconsider my radically pro-illegal views. If people are here, they should be here because they think it's better here than Mexico. I find it quite astonishing that they want the Mexican government to preside over their new nation, since the Mexican government has surely done such a great job with Mexico. In a blink of time, the new nation would acquire all the problems Mexico has, and descend into the swamps of the Third World. This isn't something anyone should wish for.

D

82 posted on 12/07/2002 4:00:03 PM PST by daviddennis
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To: philosofy123
"That is the reason I hate to call myself a right winger, because of people like you guys on this board". Me too. It drives me nuts. If we need to build any walls in this country, how about starting with one to stop the socialists from the People's Republic of Massachusetts trying to take over New Hampshire! Or how about all the nutwads from California pouring into Montana and trying to impose their lalaland ideas on folks there (like, they did such a great job in California, they've got to start exporting their failures elsewhere?)I live in Texas. Mexicans are the least of our problems, believe me.
84 posted on 12/07/2002 4:33:25 PM PST by leilani
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To: leilani
We could always bring back the Comanche.... only problem is Comanche hated us Anglos even more.
86 posted on 12/07/2002 4:48:06 PM PST by txhurl
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To: FITZ
I'll bet you're counting some 5th and 6th generation Americans as "mexican-americans" and some people from the SW whose families never came from Mexico who are descended from Spaniards possibly mixed with Indians who also didn't come from Mexico. "Mexicans" are a foreign people from another country.

That's why I said "Mexican-Americans." And I don't see why they're genetic make-up is relevant.

88 posted on 12/07/2002 4:54:22 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: SJackson
Thanks for posting this. There's been other postings of this but yours was the first and you also (most importantly) kept the links.

The important thing in this article is what it reveals about the current lot of illegals, something which most Americans are unaware of. Whenever I get into discusssions with people regarding this issue and even if they'd like to see a stop to all this, when you bring up the social impacts and consequences both presently and in the future they always come back with something along the lines of, "well they've said similar things about other immigrant groups, the Irish, the Italians ..." What they don't seem to realize are the differences between this group and the others which preceded it. One, the Irish etc. had no conception that perhaps American territory was once part of Ireland and hence should be returned or that they gives them the right to be here (this attitude also wasn't one earlier displayed by groups from Mexico, they were just happy to be here). Two, given the close proximity of Mexico means the retention of cultural identity is much easier to maintain. Three, you have a level of nationalism which is promoted by the Mexican press that you don't see amoungst other immigrant groups. Four, Mexicans and Latinos in general are classed into the group of oppressed minorities and this in itself brings a lot of the problems as a result of this identification, that we find in other groups which constitute the oppressed minority. And finally, and this applies to all current immigrants--during the heyday of immigration into this country it was not a social welfare state. Being a social welfare state on balance changes the factors in the argument as to how much they provide and how much they take from society, not to mention the closure of hospitals, rise and crime and overcrowding in schools.

89 posted on 12/07/2002 5:00:02 PM PST by Coeur de Lion
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To: SJackson
Yankee Wetback, GO HOME!
91 posted on 12/07/2002 5:20:42 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: philosofy123
How do you feel about this?

In Los Angeles last year, cars were seen bearing illuminated signs that read “F--- you, this is still Mexico.” Not just a few cars. Thousands. This is but one sign of the hostility towards the United States that is growing among Mexicans living in this country.

It's a good thing for me that I don't see those signs here in FL.

92 posted on 12/07/2002 5:31:57 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: SJackson
Good post. Now, if only our leaders would read it...
93 posted on 12/07/2002 5:36:40 PM PST by neutrino
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To: SJackson
Heck, I'd give them So. California if we could get them out of the rest of the country. I'm sick of ungrateful immigrants. If they don't like the US, they can all go live in So. CA or go back to Mexico. Southern Californians don't seem to know the difference anyway, they keep voting for Democrats.
95 posted on 12/07/2002 6:14:50 PM PST by Eva
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To: SJackson
The American Southwest is going to be Kosovo times 100.
96 posted on 12/07/2002 6:34:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: JJDKII
same here!
97 posted on 12/07/2002 7:08:02 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: JJDKII
[I doubt if I will feel any differently in 2004]

Unless there are some drastic changes (for the better) in the next year - I know I will not feel differently. Also, I will be a little more active than last election. Not that I can do that much - but at least, I will do my part and will know I tried.

And thanks==

98 posted on 12/07/2002 7:45:42 PM PST by nanny
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To: meenie
Being a native Texan I fear what you wrote will come to pass, but not without a fight.
My family lived in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas for 8 hard years where we were the minority. It was a blessing to get transfered to Central Texas with fewer Mexicans. No that is not meant as a racist remark, it is just lots of south Texas Mexican women think their s_ _ t don't stink.
Now they are even trying to rewrite our history of the Alamo by saying Davy Crockett gave up rather than being killed in combat.
At least Texas did one smart thing this November by not electing our first Mexican Govenor....Tony Sanchez lost big time even though he was spending a million dollars a week for TV ads from his own pocket.
Great Article!
99 posted on 12/07/2002 9:51:44 PM PST by Rancher_jean
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To: Guillermo
I have a great Aunt who lives in Mexico City (she HATES it). She tells me the newspapers there all the time say that they're planning on conquering the Southwest of the US.

Given what's transpired under the sovereignty destroying Clinton and Bush administrations I'm not surprised they have that attitude at all. Attitudes such as this are universally born out of secular appeasement and weakness. They know our government well I'd say.

100 posted on 12/07/2002 10:46:58 PM PST by WRhine
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