Posted on 12/06/2002 4:58:23 AM PST by SJackson
If they refuse to pay (as the surely will, typical of any third-worlder), we should invade, and take enough land to cover their debt, as well as any expenses we occur.
The southermost 5 miles of this land could be designed a border "kill zone" to prevent the problem from occuring again. The remaining land could be auctioned off to Americans and divided into several states.
Last year, I decided to check out some Mexican culture by visiting the Cinco de Mayo celebration on Olvera Street in Downtown LA. There were lots of booths and huge crowds. Many of the booths were selling clothing and books expressing exactly the opinions mentioned in this essay, including a quite unseemly hatred for the US.
I am basically a moderate on the immigration issue - I think foreigners should be allowed in as long as they are coming to work. I don't think of an illegal Mexican as any less welcome than, say, a high tech worker on the H1B program. We have a shortage of all kinds of workers in this country.
But even I have a problem with people who want to undermine our country and system. I'm not saying our system's perfect, but compared to what other nations have, it looks awfully good. I wish the Mexicans would stop and think why they are in America to begin with. Much of Mexico has charming, Carribean style climate and a far lower cost of living. We have a horribly high cost of living in Southern California, but we are very much the land of opportunity.
If I were a touch more violently inclined, I would wish that the army of illegal alien haters would fight a war with MEChA and the like, leaving only the reasonable nice people behind :-). That makes a nice joke, but I fear there would be too much collateral damage.
This article definitely makes me reconsider my radically pro-illegal views. If people are here, they should be here because they think it's better here than Mexico. I find it quite astonishing that they want the Mexican government to preside over their new nation, since the Mexican government has surely done such a great job with Mexico. In a blink of time, the new nation would acquire all the problems Mexico has, and descend into the swamps of the Third World. This isn't something anyone should wish for.
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That's why I said "Mexican-Americans." And I don't see why they're genetic make-up is relevant.
The important thing in this article is what it reveals about the current lot of illegals, something which most Americans are unaware of. Whenever I get into discusssions with people regarding this issue and even if they'd like to see a stop to all this, when you bring up the social impacts and consequences both presently and in the future they always come back with something along the lines of, "well they've said similar things about other immigrant groups, the Irish, the Italians ..." What they don't seem to realize are the differences between this group and the others which preceded it. One, the Irish etc. had no conception that perhaps American territory was once part of Ireland and hence should be returned or that they gives them the right to be here (this attitude also wasn't one earlier displayed by groups from Mexico, they were just happy to be here). Two, given the close proximity of Mexico means the retention of cultural identity is much easier to maintain. Three, you have a level of nationalism which is promoted by the Mexican press that you don't see amoungst other immigrant groups. Four, Mexicans and Latinos in general are classed into the group of oppressed minorities and this in itself brings a lot of the problems as a result of this identification, that we find in other groups which constitute the oppressed minority. And finally, and this applies to all current immigrants--during the heyday of immigration into this country it was not a social welfare state. Being a social welfare state on balance changes the factors in the argument as to how much they provide and how much they take from society, not to mention the closure of hospitals, rise and crime and overcrowding in schools.
In Los Angeles last year, cars were seen bearing illuminated signs that read F--- you, this is still Mexico. Not just a few cars. Thousands. This is but one sign of the hostility towards the United States that is growing among Mexicans living in this country.
It's a good thing for me that I don't see those signs here in FL.
Unless there are some drastic changes (for the better) in the next year - I know I will not feel differently. Also, I will be a little more active than last election. Not that I can do that much - but at least, I will do my part and will know I tried.
And thanks==
Given what's transpired under the sovereignty destroying Clinton and Bush administrations I'm not surprised they have that attitude at all. Attitudes such as this are universally born out of secular appeasement and weakness. They know our government well I'd say.
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