Posted on 09/21/2002 12:48:11 PM PDT by The FRugitive
Sure. IMO you are a shill for the leftist pro-drug cause.
Quoting yourself isn't much of a source.
One time he attempted to falsely equate late-FReeper HeavyD's death with marijuana use. You're debating a vacuous boob prone to blatant hypocrisy, don't waste your time.
How about from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reports for the United States 2000 (Washington DC: US Government Printing Office, 2001), pp. 215-216, which shows:
Although people may think that the Drug War targets drug smugglers and 'King Pins,' in 2000, 46.5 percent of the 1,579,566 total arrests for drug abuse violations were for marijuana -- a total of 734,497. Of those, 646,042 people were arrested for marijuana possession alone. This is an increase over 1999, when a total of 704,812 Americans were arrested for marijuana offenses, of which 620,541 were for possession alone.
Worse than morons, it shows them as liars. When kids hear about the horrors of MJ and see that it is BS, they assume that the similar stories about Heroin and cocaine are also lies. We thus encourge hard drug use by lying about MJ.
Or kids try pot and think, "well, I tried pot and I don't see the horrors that they speak of so I assume I won't see the horrors the say lurk behind crack and heroin." It amounts to, "that wasn't so bad. It was actually pretty fun. What next?"
You really didn't answer my question. Let me rephrase - where do you find this crap?
That's all well and good. You may have missed the point. When has ANYONE been imprisoned for smoking pot?
Then what does that make these conservatives?
NATIONAL REVIEW has attempted during its tenure as, so to speak, keeper of the conservative tablets to analyze public problems and to recommend intelligent thought. The magazine has acknowledged a variety of positions by right-minded thinkers and analysts who sometimes reach conflicting conclusions about public policy. As recently as on the question of troops to Bosnia, there was dissent within the family from our corporate conclusion that we'd be best off staying home.
For many years we have published analyses of the drug problem. An important and frequently cited essay by Professor Michael Gazzaniga (Feb. 5, 1990) brought a scientist's discipline into the picture, shedding light on matters vital to an understanding of the drug question. He wrote, for instance, about different rates of addiction, and about ambient pressures that bear on addiction. Elsewhere, Professor James Q. Wilson, now of UCLA, has written eloquently in defense of the drug war. Milton Friedman from the beginning said it would not work, and would do damage.
We have found Dr. Gazzaniga and others who have written on the subject persuasive in arguing that the weight of the evidence is against the current attempt to prohibit drugs. But NATIONAL REVIEW has not, until now, opined formally on the subject. We do so at this point. To put off a declarative judgment would be morally and intellectually weak-kneed.
Things being as they are, and people as they are, there is no way to prevent somebody, somewhere, from concluding that ``NATIONAL REVIEW favors drugs.'' We don't; we deplore their use; we urge the stiffest feasible sentences against anyone convicted of selling a drug to a minor. But that said, it is our judgment that the war on drugs has failed, that it is diverting intelligent energy away from how to deal with the problem of addiction, that it is wasting our resources, and that it is encouraging civil, judicial, and penal procedures associated with police states. We all agree on movement toward legalization, even though we may differ on just how far.
Shills Dane?
scholar: Our prison system is overburdened with non-violent, pot-smoking "criminals" while the big time dealers never find their way to prison. 22
Where did you find that nonsense?
If you would actually think for a change and click on the link to whom I was responding you would know where I quoted from.
The Cycle of Justified Violence
"Politicians and bureaucrats "justify" keeping their jobs and reelection by protecting the citizens from criminals. If there's not enough criminals they create a boogieman followed by laws to protect the people from it. Thus creating a new category of criminals. Lock up the boogieman-pot-smokers and let the violent criminals reenter society so they can create more violent crimes and the people will speak out against the violence and cry out for politicians and bureaucrats to do their job. The cycle of justified violence." -- Zon
Please provide that link one more time.
Sorry about that Zon. It was scholar who was belching the nonsense. I'll have to take it up with that idiot...
Yet you hang with those who desire to spread propaganda? Not a wise move...
Quoting yourself isn't much of a source.
Of course you had to conveniently omit the first part of the quote. which read, "In each person's life internal authority takes precedence over external authority..."
The source is that I have a mind of my own. Your penchant for quoting other people, ie. "sources", is your laziness and inability to write meaningful original thoughts of your own.
"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." -- James Madison
"This forum is used by some people, Roscoe included, that want the power to initiate force, fraud and coercion against people or seek to enlist government agents to initiate force, fraud and threat of force against people on their behalf." -- Zon
"In each person's life internal authority takes precedence over external authority. That some people choose to sacrifice their own authority to external authority is always a net negative/loss to themselves and society." -- Zon
No...it is you who hang with those who desire to spread propaganda...with a billion dollars of our tax money.
"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." -- James Madison
"Society is indeed a contract. It is a partnership in all science; a partnership in all art; a partnership in every virtue, and in all perfection. As the ends of such a partnership cannot be obtained in many generations, it becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those who are to be born." -- Edmund Burke
Ok. Looked like a ping list to me. Never mind then.
Say, didn't I ask you a direct question? Ah, yes. It was - When has ANYONE been imprisoned for smoking pot?
Any answers?
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