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Drug Czar on Anti-Marijuana Crusade
The Week Online ^ | September 20, 2002 | Phil Smith

Posted on 09/21/2002 12:48:11 PM PDT by The FRugitive

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To: Libloather
To: Zon

Our prison system is overburdened with non-violent, pot-smoking "criminals" while the big time dealers never find their way to prison.

You really didn't answer my question. Let me rephrase - where do you find this crap?

87 posted on 9/21/02 6:53 PM Eastern by Libloather

I told you in post #91. I see you're trying to put across the implication that I have already responded to you on this issue. As of your post #87 I have not yet responded to you. I responded in post #91.

101 posted on 09/21/2002 4:28:08 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Roscoe
Edmund Burke and his theory of positive liberty. His views were one of the reasons that the "Several States" insisted on the Bill of Rights.

Most of the early founders were believers in negative liberty...small decentralized government. Not a huge emcompassing federal behemoth dictating what substances we could or could not ingest.

They would never have concieved of Federal Gulags for citizens that were not of a military nature.

102 posted on 09/21/2002 4:30:55 PM PDT by KDD
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To: Libloather

Zon: If you would actually think for a change and click on the link to whom I was responding you would know where I quoted from. 91

Please provide that link one more time. 92

What is your problem!? I'll repost the quote you've been asking about just as I already I did in my post #91 and see if you can find the link.

scholar: Our prison system is overburdened with non-violent, pot-smoking "criminals" while the big time dealers never find their way to prison. 22

Can you find the link yet, or are you still having problems?

103 posted on 09/21/2002 4:34:12 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Sandy
Looked like a ping list to me.

If you wish to be removed from the Illegal Drug Freedom Fighter Thug list, you may have to take it up with them - eh?

104 posted on 09/21/2002 4:35:40 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Zon
Can you find the link yet, or are you still having problems?

Time to update that 14k modem - eh?

105 posted on 09/21/2002 4:37:17 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Sorry about that Zon. It was scholar who was belching the nonsense. I'll have to take it up with that idiot...93

Considering your pitiful "performance" on just this one incredibly simple issue of who posted what and where the link is, you calling any person an "idiot" further discredits yourself.

Apology not necessary. I suggest you think first! before you post.

106 posted on 09/21/2002 4:40:06 PM PDT by Zon
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To: KDD; Zon
Just to make sure you got the question this time - When has ANYONE been imprisoned for smoking pot?

Any answers - yet?

(Gotta post this one day in advance - for Zon...)

107 posted on 09/21/2002 4:42:41 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Yet you hang with those who desire to spread propaganda?

I hang with nobody. What are you, some sort of punk or something?

108 posted on 09/21/2002 4:42:51 PM PDT by Zon
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To: AAABEST
Just for the purposes of disclosure, "Dane" is an admitted ex-druggie. So until he turns himself in for the crimes he commited and is jailed or shot (as he would have others who made the same life choices he made), pay no attention to him whatsoever. Except to slap him in the head as you walk by.

Your above itlalicized pargaraph is hyperbole to the extreme, and I thought it could never happen, but you(AAABEST) prove there are all sort of wonders in the world.

Someone who says a bad word about pot should be shot is your credo, IMHO.

Oh BTW, HeavyD on FR said that pot use over many years never caused him any harm, I will bring that quote up as he was defending his "heavy" drug use on a thread defending another and leftist pot head who died before the average age, Carl Sagan.

Man...listen I am living proof that heavy,long term pot use can be harmless,I have never had pneumonia,my lungs are crystal clear,I am reasonably lucid,my motor skills are above average,as is hand to eye coordination,I am able to remember characters and events from books I read in school and just last week.

People only notice the mental midgets who screw up on drugs not the users who are nondescript.I suspect that alot of people would suprised to know how many people actually smoke pot.

58 Posted on 08/21/1999 20:32:10 PDT by HEAVYD [ Reply | To 56 | Top | Last ]

Biographer: Carl Sagan Drew Inspiration From Getting High

Thank God I got out and exited the drug culture.

109 posted on 09/21/2002 4:45:23 PM PDT by Dane
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To: KDD
``NATIONAL REVIEW favors drugs.''

So what, Bill Buckley writes a few articles about smoking pot.

Bill Buckley is not your hero socialist and Hillary friend George Soros who funds the pro-drug cause to the hilt.

110 posted on 09/21/2002 4:49:52 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Libloather
When has ANYONE been imprisoned for smoking pot?

WASHINGTON, June 16 (UPI) - A new study (Tuesday) says nearly 60,000 marijuana offenders are in jail in the United States at any given time.

The study, by the Federation of American Scientists, says more than one- fourth of those inmates are incarcerated for personal possession of marijuana, with no other drugs involved in the offense. Copyright 1999 by United Press International

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3766be45611d.htm

111 posted on 09/21/2002 4:51:38 PM PDT by KDD
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To: Roscoe
Wow! Roscoe, you know how to quote other people that you agree with -- even though you often quote them out of context. How about posting arguments in your own words. That way people may think you have an original thought of your own and not just think of you as a status-quo parrot. It occurs to me that just about any halfwit can parrot other people more often than using their own words, but one must have their own thoughts and words and use those in their responses to gain credibility.

In each person's life internal authority takes precedence over external authority. That some people choose to sacrifice their own authority to external authority is always a net negative/loss to themselves and society.

"Runaway now little man", the peasant said to the king.

112 posted on 09/21/2002 4:53:31 PM PDT by Zon
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To: KDD; Zon
The study, by the Federation of American Scientists, says more than one- fourth of those inmates are incarcerated for personal possession of marijuana, with no other drugs involved in the offense. Copyright 1999 by United Press International

Just to make sure you got the question this time - When has ANYONE been imprisoned for smoking pot?

Any answers - yet?

(You two yokels are working yourselves towards a thread dedicated to this very subject. Any input before making fools of yourselves?)

113 posted on 09/21/2002 4:55:01 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Dane
A dishonest post on your part. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not read the article. It was not a Buckley piece. If your disconnect is an honest one, that is perhaps related to your lack of reading comprehension, then I understand.

Bill Buckley is not your hero socialist and Hillary friend George Soros who funds the pro-drug cause to the hilt.

This statement defies logic.

114 posted on 09/21/2002 4:57:49 PM PDT by KDD
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To: KDD
His views were one of the reasons that the "Several States" insisted on the Bill of Rights.

How "imaginative."

The actual reason:

"But it is universally understood, it is a part of the history of the day, that the great revolution which established the constitution of the United States, was not effected without immense opposition. Serious fears were extensively entertained that those powers which the patriot statesmen, who then watched over the interests of our country, deemed essential to union, and to the attainment of those invaluable objects for which union was sought, might be exercised in a manner dangerous to liberty. In almost every convention by which the constitution was adopted, amendments to guard against the abuse of power were recommended. These amendments demanded security against the apprehended encroachments of the general government--not against those of the local governments." -- Barron v. Baltimore, 7 Pet. 243 (1833)

115 posted on 09/21/2002 5:00:13 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Libloather

Time to update that 14k modem - eh?

Please explain the point you're trying to make.

116 posted on 09/21/2002 5:00:33 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon
Lock up the boogieman-pot-smokers and let the violent criminals reenter society so they can create more violent crimes and the people will speak out against the violence and cry out for politicians and bureaucrats to do their job.

That is the aspect of this issue that I didn't want to get into in my previous post, but you are exactly right!!

Funny thing about the war on drugs--if I wanted a joint of MJ or any other drug--I wouldn't have a clue where to find it, but I know I could find a 12 yr old who could clue me in.

117 posted on 09/21/2002 5:01:20 PM PDT by scholar
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To: Libloather
Don't start with the personal attacks a**hole.

I haven't come to this forum to be adressed as a fool or Yokel by an immature idiot like you.
118 posted on 09/21/2002 5:03:32 PM PDT by KDD
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To: Zon
In each person's life internal authority takes precedence over external authority. -- Some nameless Net crackpot

"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws." -- John Adams

"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." -- James Madison


119 posted on 09/21/2002 5:03:54 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: KDD
This statement defies logic.

Oh so you too are prone to the pro-drug " not to dismiss the man(George Soros) behind curtain syndrome" when it squarely looks you in the face.

Sheesh Dorothy and Toto were not in Kansas anymore, it seems more like "Cannabis".

120 posted on 09/21/2002 5:04:48 PM PDT by Dane
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