Witnesses picked for Westerfield penalty phase ( SBR penalty Watch).

San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 2002-08-27 | Alex Roth , UT Staff

[juzcuz]

It's really strange that the police on the witness stand, when confronted by their own reports, could not justify themselves in their departmental mistakes. Not only the quantity of reports of reports but the quality therein.

The different officers who took all those LE reports from the pizza gang were all so wrong in so many detailed ways, it is hard for me to understand.

I have filled out a police report before, I wrote out the incident in detail. My statement was read back to me by the officer before I signed it. What I signed was a valid statement because it was a confirmation of what I had experienced. It was a statement that I would stand on as being true to my experience today. From what I understand the police officer then files his own statements as to his experieces and factual details of the entire incident.

That's why I don't trust LE or the Pizza People or the DA. For ALL of those people to suddenly get out of their orginal statements so easily is OUTRAGEOUS.

[UCANSEE2]

That would be valid. Sorry. I can't agree with that. The boy's pictures have been in the news. They most likely don't have any passport photos of the boys. I think that there is more MICKEY MOUSE going on with ITALY story.

WHen were they going to ITALY?

When was Damon and the boys going to go to the cabin at Big Bear with Bill LIbby?

[UCANSEE2]

That's why I don't trust LE or the Pizza People or the DA. For ALL of those people to suddenly get out of their orginal statements so easily is OUTRAGEOUS.

Apparently the victims or their relatives, the LE's, the investigators, the experts, the Prosecutor, the DA, the JUDGE are all allowed to lie, under oath, and even if caught at it, it means they are TRUTHFUL HONEST PEOPLE.

If you are the defendant, your side must tell the complete truth, and even when proven accurate and true, it means you are a LOWLIFE SCUM LYING DOG.

That is how most of the US sees it, and how many of the posters on FR see it. I hope they like it when that 'practice' or precedent BITES THEM IN THE @ss!

[juzcuz]

You just inspired me---

Why didn't we see Danielle yesterday in that photo montage with her brothers for the trip to Disney World. Why only pictures of her and her aunts?

[the-gooroo]

I don't remember ever seeing pictures of the boys so maybe that's not the reason. (their privacy/protection) It really did bother me that that the video presentation didn't show her brothers or the whole family together.

To be clear, I don't like the idea of the video at all but since they were allowed to do it why not portray her as a part of their lives and how empty it will be without her. The video spoke volumes IMO.

[UCANSEE2]

Why didn't we see Danielle yesterday in that photo montage with her brothers for the trip to Disney World. Why only pictures of her and her aunts?

I don't have a clue. Could it be she didn't get to go? Was left home with an aunt? Wonder if anyone else noticed or has a clue?

Remember MUDD said he wouldn't allow a MEMORIAL picture of Danielle to be placed in the courtroom, that that was prejudicial?

Hmmmmmmm........ Every picture of the courtroom I saw had 1 or two pictures of DANIELLE posted up in a very conspicuous place. So, MUDD musta (lied/changed his mind/been bought off/Pfingst has something on MUDD) !

And then the MUSIC VIDEO just about goes off the charts as far as prejudicial and providing a circus-like environment in a courtroom.

I have $25 bucks that says the real killer could walk into the courtroom, confess to the crime, provide proof, and 90% of the nation and posters on FR wouldn't believe it, would still demand DW's head on a stick.

[the-gooroo]

I think Brenda said they were going to Italy in April. Don't know about Big Bear w/ Bill Libby.

[juzcuz]

I can't see total privacy/protection

Because they were all shown at the Danielle memorial all together that day public pictures were taken. Also, the boys were pictured with Rev. Acton.

[UCANSEE2]

Funny thing happened on the way to the forum!

I rode a horse of a different color. I mean I got on a thread involving a totally non-related subject (to this one).

I defended the poster of the ARTICLE, and the posters on that thread were so upset about me jumping into the thread and acting like "someone peed in my Cheerios".

Seems that it's ok for DISRUPTORS to jump in on the DW/VD threads and make personal insults, all while claiming how mean we are to them, but jump into one of their threads, even politely, and they SCREAM LIKE LITTLE BABIES.

BTW, I am trying to find out when the trip to Italy was. The trip to the CABIN was supposed to be FRIDAY, but BRENDA HAD to go out with Barb,Denise (even though she went out the weekend before with them, to the same place, using the same excuse), and DAMON had to postpone. Plans changed to them (Damon and the boys (it was a father-daughter snowboarding event) going on SUNDAY.

[UCANSEE2]

Because they were all shown at the Danielle memorial all together that day public pictures were taken. Also, the boys were pictured with Rev. Acton.

Just like everything else, the VD's are being allowed to CONTROL what is seen/what is hidden. I still say they can't produce the Passport photos of the boys, cause there aren't any. Either that or the photos show the boys hair being long enough to be undistinguishable from the hair found in the MH sink trap.

[the-gooroo]

I can't take that bet UCS2, I think you're right.

Did you hear the judge tell the jurors to disregard the outburst by Damon VanDam? I guess he yelled something and then left the courtroom! It was during the testimony of DW's sister. This guy is unbelievable!

[alexandria]

My question is, did the mom ask to see his finger where she bit him? If she bit him as hard as she could then he would have a mark.

[Guenevere]

#71...I think you're referencing Brenda's tearful exit....and nothing would do, but the judge announce it.
..She made a little gasp, or shreik before she left.

[the-gooroo]

Thanks for the correction. I thought I heard the judge say
Mr. Van Dam, he obviously said Mrs.. Do you know what caused her to react that way during the sisters testimony?

[juzcuz]

I agree I feel like a horse, a black one, maybe even one that is last to the finish line. But that's OK. I'm learning something here I've said it before: "I'd rather learn than burn". Genius comes from thinking independently from all other opinions and not going along with the social group think.

The trip to Italy was to have been the following week from that Friday Feb 1.. Think, it takes at least 12 hours average flight time US to Europe it would have had to be on a weekend. If Damon was to represent something work related he would have had to be ready for a Monday or early week morning.

The F/D snowboard event was something that most of the entire area (other resorts in Big Bear Mt) were participating in. I don't know how it fits in but somehow it must.

[Guenevere]

I sure do!

Dusek was playing his little mind game with DW's sister...(& I doubt the sister even realized it)

Whenever she related anything about DW's son or daughter......Dusek would lead her pointedly with..."and David got to ENJOY watching his daughter graduate....and David got to ENJOY seeing his son in the band....and David got to ENJOY making things with his kids..."
...do you catch my drift...

I say Dusek & Bren had this all prearranged......and she ON CUE tearfully left the courtroom, because ....she can't ENJOY watching Danielle grow up.

I say!!......We've watched the video & Brenda's tears for months......

...couldn't she have let DW have a few moments of uninterrupted grief from his sister.

But no, it's all about Brenda.....(not Danielle, mind you...but Brenda!)

[the-gooroo]

I didn't realize the trip to Italy was a week away. I don't have a passport, so I hope you don't mind my stoopid question. How long does it take to get a passport? I thought it took a while--longer than a week.

[juzcuz]

I don't know all the particulars to that incident. I wish Dusek would have brought that out.
Anyway, I had that tooth biting thing happen to me with my daughter, I posted it earlier. There were no marks on my fingers and my daughter bit me hard, but playfully. My point was, that innocent things can happen incidently in the normal course of life. Today, my daugher might have a different recollection. Today, she might say I came in an yelled at them both to be quiet. I don't her oppinion right now I'll have to talk to her about it.

[pinz-n-needlez]

UCAN, Brenda said yesterday that the trip was planned for Feb. 8.

[juzcuz]

Hey I've been at this for a while-- But I still don't know all the particulars.

I once looked up on the net about pp's. Some sites offer 24 hr. pp's others offer 5 day things. Nevertheless, If you have kids you have to have photo's and two parent signature - approval on an application for the children to leave the country. You have to appear at the post office with a signed and filled application representing your children and yourself. The application has to be witnessed at someone at the post office. You can get a visa immediately or next day for you and your kids. Now If I'm wrong I hope someone will correct me, but that is what I read.