Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)

Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

[Brown Deer]

Back in the day being pregnant was something to be hidden! “Belly bumps” were NOT advertised.

[Seizethecarp]

The one pregnant woman who is NOT a celebrity unable to escape the media (the first one) appears to be fleeing the camera!

I am not sure why you included as the last picture the 1964 picture at Oxford, England of Valerie Sarruf behind Malcolm X as she doesn’t look pregnant to me and I have seen no evidence that she was pregnant at the time (if ever)...or that she was ever impregnated by Malcolm X circa 1960, as claimed by the Mal-Val Narrative Cult to support the two of them being parents of POTUS Barry.

Note that to this day the word “confinement” is synonymous as a perhaps more polite word for pregnancy:

http://www.medicineonline.com/articles/C/2/Confinement/Pregnancy.html

[Brown Deer]

Note that to this day the word “confinement” is synonymous as a perhaps more polite word for pregnancy...

What's your point?

The one pregnant woman who is NOT a celebrity unable to escape the media (the first one) appears to be fleeing the camera!

keep trying...

Photo Caption:

"This photo of my mother was snapped by my father right after Hurricane Donna in Ft. Myers, Fla. Donna had torn the roof off the house behind us, sent boats into carports, flooded the streets, and buried our yard in debris. Mom had played the piano the whole time. The next day, despite being in her 8th month of pregnancy, my 39-year old mother was out there hauling away banyan tree branches. She'd lived through the Depression, World War II, a stormy marriage, and she wasn't going to let a little hurricane get her down. Less than a month later, my brother tried to be born "upside down," and the trauma sent her into a mental collapse so severe, the hospital would not release her for a week."

[Brown Deer]

I am not sure why you included as the last picture the 1964 picture at Oxford, England of Valerie Sarruf behind Malcolm X as she doesn’t look pregnant to me and I have seen no evidence that she was pregnant at the time...

[Fred Nerks]

I am not sure why you included as the last picture the 1964 picture at Oxford, England of Valerie Sarruf behind Malcolm X as she doesn’t look pregnant to me...

Good heavens man, surely you aren't suggesting that these two perfectly innocent victims of malicious gossip had a long running relationship and that his girlfriend in the UK may have had another child after his appearance at the Oxford Union, where the man who advocated a MAU MAU for the United States of America, got to address the members about the usefulness of VIOLENCE? How terrible. And who's that girl anyway, I can't find a caption with her name on it. Getty archives used to have this image in their Hulton archive, but lately, I can't seem to find it no more...

[bgill]

I have many pictures from 1900 to 1920 of relatives who have large baby bumps. They don’t seem shy of anything.

[Brown Deer]

10, 9, 8, 7, 6.....

To: bgill

I have many pictures from 1900 to 1920 of relatives who have large baby bumps. They don’t seem shy of anything.

Link?

1,648 posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)

[Fred Nerks]

LOL! How did you do that...? Step into the future?

[Fred Nerks]

http://vunzooke.com/obama-attends-the-syracuse-vs-marquette-east-regional-final-ncaa/static10.imagecollect.com*preview*136*a50d48e2ff45dc8/

The above URL links to the page you wanted to show. No one is going to answer your question when all they can see is a little red cross.

And as best as I can make it out, he’s resting his right arm on his own knee.

[Fred Nerks]

CuriousPatriot Since Jul 27, 2013

made one comment...sniff sniff

[Brown Deer]

I wonder how a newbie would just happen to come across a backroom thread, and reply to an ignorant comment made by a virtual nobody.

[Fred Nerks]

Maybe she also lives at that address in New York - What was it? W 118 Street? Is that in Harlem?

[joenrogers]

I'm new here but from what have seen, nothing changes from one year to the next. U are still bitching over the same stuff that has been widely debunked. U can't claim to have not seen it because it has been out there for three years.

Maybe u should have read one of Corsi's four articles about Polland's work in WND? Maybe Polland's article in American Thinker?

While u were arguing about Stanley Ann Dunham under the idea that she is a real person, Polland has a convincing argument that she is a composite character in print and a Photoshop in pictures.

People are just now coming out and showing her passport photos were forged. Polland was like, "Been there, done that" when they first came out in Strunk's FOIA, IIRC.

Remember BO said he used composite characters in "Dreams" and given that Bill Ayers co-wrote this crap, u should have doubted its validity from the get-go.

Now, are u really gonna tell me that u you really believe dozens of Obamanoids cannot be telling the same lies to cover their Messiah's butt?

Really? What flavor is ur Kool-Aid?

On his Youtube channel, TheDrRJP, he has a playlist called

Obama's Photo 'Lie'ography'

that's a three-parter.

Part 1 was posted November 1, 2010; Part 2 on November 16, 2010, and Part 3 on November 30, 2010; then remixed as this playlist on February 15, 2011 - two months before u were still stuck on "Dreams," Stanley Ann Dunham and Anna Obama, as if they were the Book of Obama, a garbage Gospel.

Hey, Sneezethecarp. He has 1,185 subscribers and 5,435,800 views, so don't make light of 1,150 views for something that appears in three other videos.

I'll go one step further. In July 2011, he published a book called,

Alias Barack Obama: A picture is worth 1,000 lies

It's well worth the two bucks it costs if only to stop this nonsense about "Seeing is believing."

It's also funny as hell, too.

Some of the photos have been debunked by other people but nobody has debunked all 100 of his. That's right 100 fully annotated photos.

Fred Nerks is doing his best to explain the bunch of evidence for a Sarruf-Shabazz hookup and Polland is coming out with a new book that will add the back story to it, as well as reveal the link between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood.

AND, what do we find in WND today?

OBAMA'S BROTHER CONNECTED TO THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

How about

OBAMA IS CONNECTED TO THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD?

Another Polland video u missed.

BTW, what is the evidence that this Brotherhood guy has that would put Obama in prison? How about his Egyptian birth certificate?

[LucyT]

Check out # 1,653.

Thanks, joenrogers. Interesting.

(You could have emailed me, ya know.)

[Seizethecarp]

“Fred Nerks is doing his best to explain the bunch of evidence for a Sarruf-Shabazz hookup and Polland is coming out with a new book that will add the back story to it, as well as reveal the link between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Is that you, Fred Nerks, pretending to be “joenrogers”? Or is it Ron Polland?

If joenrogers is a real person I apologize for these intemperate insinuations on my part. I welcome any actual evidence regarding Barry’s origins.

I had a run-in with Ron Polland over the infamous “baby footprint” in which I believe I caught Polland in a demonstrable misrepresentation...just before the thread (and I) got zotted. Maybe it was a misunderstanding.

It is easy to claim that photos have been photo-shopped and easier to morph faces of people together.

I see a lot of hand-waiving in this comment by “joenrogers” but not a single contemporaneous document that an be validated in discovery in a court.

In contrast there are many cross-corroborated documents in state and private archives that cross-corroborate Stanley Ann being at UH in the fall of 1960 and at UW in the fall and spring of 1961. These documents include the UH and UW registrar’s records, the HI and WA Polk directories and the INS FOIA documents...all of which DESTROY Barry’s fake life narrative and show him to be a huge liar and his father to be a loathsome sexual predator and bigamist...none of which one would expect Obots to have forged to “help” Barry, IMO.

As to Barry’s Muslim Brotherhood connections, I wouldn’t look to his bizarre half-brother for anything serious. Certainly some other places, but not there, IMO!

BTW, as this thread is about who Barry’s mom and dad are, Malcolm X was NOI, not even close to being MB in 1960 when Barry was conceived, IIRC. Maybe Polland can explain it all, but I doubt it.

[GregNH]

First of all welcome FRiend. It appears you have been lurking for a while at least. None of us doubt Zippo is a Muslim, but it is his brother who we can directly tie to the MB not only in Egypt but more importantly in Sudan where he is aiding with US taxpayer funds the slaughter of Christians. Dr Pollard, or by his FReeper name Pollorick which is currently under suspension, has been posting his "work" here since 2008. We are well aware. "We" do not doubt the existence of SAD, we doubt she was the mother of anyone but her daughter. "We" also are here to expose the truth and no one including your DrRJP has been able to tell us who are Zippo's paternal parents conclusively. And as to your "BTW, what is the evidence that this Brotherhood guy has that would put Obama in prison? How about his Egyptian birth certificate?"

How about his Canadian, Belize, Ecuador, Haiti, Brazil, Lebanese,.......Birth Certificate.....

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl_M3RN5hbQ

Powerful video, thanks for posting the link.

[Brown Deer]

Is that you, SeizetheCrap, pretending to be “joenrogers”?

[little jeremiah]

Thank you, will watch tomorrow.

[little jeremiah]

I need to watch this.

Got 100% overwhelmed lately...