Rev. Jeremiah Wright: "Let's tell the truth about Haiti"

Haiti Action ^ | September 21, 2010 | Randall White

[Altura Ct.]

I know it is not all, as in 100%. Just as in any human condition other then death nothing applies to every element of any group but the majority of blacks it does apply to and citing a small exception does nothing to alter that fact. In addition most blacks have absolutely no problem or reservations going after all crackers as this piece exhibits. Funny how we are not supposed to lump all blacks together but it perfectly OK to get the ‘white man’. Brothers have no problem with this. I’ve had enough.

[SharpRightTurn]

“owed Haiti twenty-one billion dollars”

Don’t these leaders know anything other than demanding more welfare under the guise of “reparations”?

Why doesn’t this racist “Rev.” instead lecture the Haitians on the importance of breaking the welfare mentality and going to work?

The other half of the island (Dominican Republic), though not wealthy by Western standards, is a utopia compared to the garbage pit known as Haiti.

O.K., “Rev”: Let’s DO tell the truth about Haiti: it’s glory days were when the French were there and since self-rule it has been a hellhole comparable only to some of the African countries and will remain so when we’re all gone from this vale of tears.

P.S., “Rev.”: I want my pro rata share of tax money back that has been squandered on Haiti.

[kabumpo]

Lots of Cubans are black-skinned and we let them in.

[Sherman Logan]

Haiti paid France around 10 million US in reparations for property lost in the revolution to gain French recognition over 50 years from 1838-1888.

Let's put this amount into some perspective, shall we?

For one thing, it was roughly 30M US dollars at the time, not $10M.

The US bought the entire Louisiana Territory for about $15M. That's about 1/3 of the continental USA. Admittedly it was a hell of a bargain, but that was still a great deal of money at the time.

The entire US federal budget in 1860 was $60M. I've been unable to track down what it was in 1825, but I suspect it was pretty close to the $30M in question.

The majority of the "property" the Haitians were required to indemnify the French for was the money value of the liberated slaves. Guess what we paid the owners when we liberated the slaves (confiscated their value) in this country? Zip.

The 150M gold francs ($30M US) was about 5x the total annual exports of Haiti at the time. The equivalent amount for the US today would be more than $5 trillion. By 1900 80% of the Haitian budget went to these payments. Many presently consider the US grossly over-indebted, but our payments on the national debt consume a great deal less than 80% of our budget, and most of that goes to American creditors, or at least is reinvested in the USA by foreign creditors. When Haiti paid money to the French it left the country never to return.

I stand by my contention that the USA would have considered this an egregious violation of the Monroe Doctrine if committed against any other Latin American nation. But southern (and northern) prejudice against black Haiti kept them from intervening.

AFAIK, no Latin American nation was forced to pay anything remotely equivalent to Spain or Portugal for losses suffered by Spanish or Portugese nationals during their revolutions. If you have evidence otherwise, I'd like to see it.

I agree with most of what you say about Haiti having largely messed itself up. But the French, with American acquiescence, certainly helped a great deal.

Contrast them with Dom Rep next door...a fairly African place but with a strong white and mulatto bourgeoisie...much much better....though still way below what we would call good.

I agree. You have any evidence that DR was required to pay equivalent, or any, reparations to Spain?

[Inappropriate Laughter]

Haiti has many problems mostly caused by its own population and rulers. Here is one of them:

Population in thousands

This 2004 BBC report gives a good background: Haiti: An economic basket-case Analysis By Steve Schifferes BBC News Online economics reporter

[Del Rapier]

He is essentially correct about the way France extorted money from Haiti.

The point is how much would they actually have to pay and where would the money go.

Haiti’s problem is that it is mostly ungovernable and a free for all. It is like Mexico on the Caribbeans.

[Therapsid]

Lets tell the truth ...about the 2 days when EVERY White Person on the island was killed...because of their skin.

The trade in Voodoo body parts?

The drug trade?

The slavery?

as a cambodian woman I know,”who at 95 lbs..works as a court security guard here...”Says “white people are STUPID”