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Southerners looking to share their Confederate holiday
Hartford Courant ^ | March 22, 2009 | Dahleen Glanton

Posted on 03/21/2009 6:26:13 AM PDT by cowboyway

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To: ought-six
The poster made his point, that Lincoln didn’t care one iota about the slaves; to him, they were nothing but a political commodity to be used or expended as circumstances dictated. Lincoln waged war not to free the slaves...

Only because he didn't bother including the last sentence in the letter.

...but to restore the Union and the revenues associated with it.

Hogwash. Federal tariff revenues had already almost doubled by 1863. Without the South.

181 posted on 03/21/2009 5:43:16 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mac_truck

“NonSeq is from Kansas, the dark red heart of Republicanism.”

You mean like Kathleen Sebelius?


182 posted on 03/21/2009 5:45:58 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
So what branch of the army of occupation did you serve in?

If I had to guess, I'd say the girl scouts.

184 posted on 03/21/2009 5:47:18 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: ought-six
You mean like Kathleen Sebelius?

Or Rod Blagojevich?

185 posted on 03/21/2009 5:48:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Imagine a country without NE and CA. Heaven. That can’t happen without major conflict unfortunately. I am not even interested in reconciling at this point. I wish Yankee land and Mexifronication would go on a start their socialist utopias, leave us alone, peacefully. I can dream can’t I?


186 posted on 03/21/2009 5:49:27 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va
Woops, your true colors are starting to show. Wanna take that back?

Nope. I'm a Yankee and very proud of it. Would you like to take back your Southron loyalties?

187 posted on 03/21/2009 5:49:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
The two parties have switched idealogically, everyone knows that. With Dodd, etc. they are proud of their Yankee past. McKinney et al would rather die than honor anything conservative and southern.

I don't see it that way. Southern Democrats have always believed in group-based, often racial, politics. Republicans from the 1850s until today have believed in opportunity to all. The old southern Democrats believed in certain people living off the sweat of others just as current Democrats, while Republicans have always believed in free markets and free labor for all. Cynthia McKinney may disown Jefferson Davis and Davis might have been horrified to see McKinney as one of his political heirs, but they both belong together in the same too-often racist and backward Democratic Party. As for men, I'll stick with the heritage of Lincoln and Reagan.

188 posted on 03/21/2009 5:51:28 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: PurpleMan
No matter what you think or do, the Confederacy and Slavery will always be connected in history and equated with one another.

And, might I add, the Demoncrat party.

189 posted on 03/21/2009 5:52:05 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: cowboyway; stainlessbanner; puroresu

without even needing to look ahead I will bet the homey posse and GOP neoyankees are having an orgy on this thread.
nothing they hate more than America’s last reliable conservative demographic


190 posted on 03/21/2009 5:54:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: beandog
I was responding to a poster who claimed that Kansas was the “dark red heart” of Republicanism. Can’t claim that and have a dummycrat as the Governor.

So then by you your asinine definition, states like Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Wyoming can't be Republican while states like California, Connecticut, Florida, Rhode Island, and Vermont are.

191 posted on 03/21/2009 5:56:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Non-Sequitur,

I have family who’s homes were burned by snivelling little yankees with their torches, since they couldn’t beat us fair and square.

In response to these and other arguments, I pose the following questions to those who defend what Lincoln and the North did to the South:

Does anyone believe that states like North Carolina and Virginia—two of the original thirteen states of the Constitution—would have ratified the Constitution if they had believed they would be forbidden from ever leaving the Union even if they felt they needed to do so? Does anyone believe that any of the original thirteen states would have ratified the Constitution if they had been told that, no matter what, they could never secede from the Union unless they managed to fight their way out?

If you’re saying secession is only acceptable if the seceding states can fight their way out, isn’t this nothing but mob rule, tyranny by the stronger, dictatorship by majority, might makes right?

Wasn’t Lincoln’s own Secretary of State, William Seward, correct when he said, a few months before the North invaded the South, “It would be contrary to the spirit of the American Government to use force to subjugate the South”?


192 posted on 03/21/2009 5:56:34 PM PDT by Idabilly
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To: Non-Sequitur
A Yankee, I couldn't of guessed. And proud! Goes without saying. A haughty person saying "I am proud, dismissive, arrogant Yankee". That is redundant - "Yankee" says it all.

I repeat myself: no such thing as a conservative Yankee.

193 posted on 03/21/2009 5:56:45 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Hogwash. Federal tariff revenues had already almost doubled by 1863. Without the South.”

Oh, you mean the income tax that Lincoln instituted. Yeah, you’re right: Lincoln tried to make up for the loss of Southern revenues by instituting an income tax (the first in America, by the way), a move that was so unpopular it posed a threat to his presidency.


194 posted on 03/21/2009 5:57:15 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“That’s OK. Avoiding military service has a long history in the South.”

Do you care to rescind that? Cite your source.


195 posted on 03/21/2009 5:58:40 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: wardaddy
GOP neoyankees

The term RINO is easier.

196 posted on 03/21/2009 5:59:09 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Or Rod Blagojevich?”

Say what? No one ever said Illinois was a bastion of Republicanism. But someone DID say that Kansas was.


197 posted on 03/21/2009 6:00:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; ItisaReligionofPeace; central_va; ought-six; Non-Sequitur; mac_truck; beandog

*stares*

Hmm...so let me get this straight. You all are sniping at each other based on one’s locale and for the actions of (dead) people that they had nothing to do with.

Huh.

Well, have fun with that.


198 posted on 03/21/2009 6:00:46 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: ought-six
You mean like Kathleen Sebelius?

She's the second Democrat elected Governor in the state..ever. You want to show me any Confederate state that comes within a country mile of that mark?

The South has a long and inglorious history of electing Democrats and suckling the Federal teat. Quite a contast from the Mid-West, or the North east of 50 yearrs ago.

Take a look at a color map from FDR's expansionist reign if you don't believe it.

199 posted on 03/21/2009 6:02:04 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

A great way to pass the time til Jan. 2013. It sure beats looking at my IRA balance.


200 posted on 03/21/2009 6:02:34 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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