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Where does the Baptist buck stop?Southern Baptists acknowledge abuse among churches
http://www.leaderu.com/theology/southernbapt.html ^ | 7/14/2002 | Terry Mattingly

Posted on 03/31/2007 3:57:00 PM PDT by narses

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To: OpusatFR
Instead of addressing the problem, attack the Catholics.

If this wasn't intended as Protestant bashing by the Catholics, why did Post 1 have no comments, and Post 2 invite in the Catholic ping list? So when your side starts a fight, don't start crying when the other folks fire back.

In fact, I'm the neutral here, as I find that neither the Catholics nor the Baptists have the most Biblical form of Church government, and would suggest that the problem is best dealt with in a Presbyterian form of government.

21 posted on 03/31/2007 11:27:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Between the Lines
Millstones and prison sentences await those who abuse children, why is it not the same for those who hide this abuse?
It should be. In the RCC, the financial costs are getting very real, but there ought to be orange cassock's being prepared and there ain't.
22 posted on 04/01/2007 6:29:57 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: marsh_of_mists

See post 10, 11 and 12. Then get back to me. Thanks.


23 posted on 04/01/2007 6:31:17 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: ladyinred; cgk; tutstar; WKB

"This is not a Catholic or a Protestant problem it is a sin problem."




Exactly.


24 posted on 04/01/2007 7:16:15 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; WileyPink; tutstar; trillabodilla; GrandEagle; del4hope; duckbutt; ...
Baptist Ping.

In most of the SB Churches I have been in
it's the Pastor that gets abused. :>)

25 posted on 04/01/2007 10:16:41 AM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: ladyinred
This happens everywhere, and it is WRONG no matter where it happens! This is not a Catholic or a Protestant problem it is a sin problem. It should never be condoned or covered up by anyone as I am sure you would agree. How sad.

Sorry, LadyInRed, but on FR it's always going to be a Catholic problem. The bigots wouldn't have it otherwise. Most threads about a Baptist minister sleeping with a 14-year old or carrying on 23-year affairs with their kids' babysitter are either completely ignored, or the response of "Let us not cast the first stone" or "Let's pray for him and his slight indiscretions."

It's so one-sided and hypocritical I have to laugh. And then shake the dust from my feet, because it's an absolute joke and will never change.
26 posted on 04/01/2007 10:28:01 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: narses

So, narses, being Catholic, this must have you feeling on top of the world. I suppose this is supposed OKAY hmoseuxal priests and nuns from centuries of molestation.

Why am I not suprised that a Catholic would gleefully post this - even if it's NOT TRUE?

Being vindictive, narses, doesn't make two wrongs right - IF any of this is true of Baptists nor does it speak well of you - your INTENT is VERY CLEAR about NON Catholics.


27 posted on 04/01/2007 10:47:18 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: narses
Where does the Baptist buck stop? Southern Baptists acknowledge abuse among churches
http://www.leaderu.com/theology/southernbapt.html ^ | 7/14/2002 | Terry Mattingly

Must be alittle bored ... need to stir the ole pot?

The date is

7/14/2002


It's not 2007. As A Catholic, you must consider this some kind of a spiritual trophy, if true - YEARS AGO. It reminds me of serial rapists who keep something - underwear, bras or other clothing of the victim they've raped. Perhaps this article is a trophy of sorts for the non Catholics you despise.

Either way, all you exhibit by posting an article from 2002, is how UN Christ like you are. Honestly posting a FIVE year old article slamming Protestants isn't becoming to even you, as a non Christian. It's CLEAR what your ugly agenda is. Perhaps someday you will see the light and become a Christian.

28 posted on 04/01/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: narses
Where does the Baptist buck stop? Southern Baptists acknowledge abuse among churches
http://www.leaderu.com/theology/southernbapt.html ^ | 7/14/2002 | Terry Mattingly

And YOU post this on: Posted on 03/31/2007 3:57:00 PM PDT by narses Must be alittle bored ... need to stir the ole pot?

The date is

7/14/2002


It's not 2007. As A Catholic, you must consider this some kind of a spiritual trophy, if true - YEARS AGO. It reminds me of serial rapists who keep something - underwear, bras or other clothing of the victim they've raped. Perhaps this article is a trophy of sorts for the non Catholics you despise.

Either way, all you exhibit by posting an article from 2002, is how UN Christ like you are. Honestly posting a FIVE year old article slamming Protestants isn't becoming to even you, as a non Christian. It's CLEAR what your ugly agenda is. Perhaps someday you will see the light and become a Christian.

29 posted on 04/01/2007 10:55:05 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: WKB

Where does the Baptist buck stop? Southern Baptists acknowledge abuse among churches
http://www.leaderu.com/theology/southernbapt.html ^ | 7/14/2002 | Terry Mattingly


Posted on 03/31/2007 3:57:00 PM PDT by narses

Did you notice the DATE of THIS article posted by our dear Catholic, narses?

Yes, she saved this article from 7/14/2002 - true ot not, she gleefully posted FIVE years later - today, 3/31/07.

Now, tell me, convince that she has PURE motives?

LOL!

This is very ugly for even narses to do ... .


30 posted on 04/01/2007 10:58:29 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: narses
Where does the buck stop, when sexual abuse hits Protestant pulpits? The Southern Baptist resolution calls on local churches to discipline sex offenders. Yet the most powerful person in modern Protestantism is a successful pastor whose preaching and people skills keep packing people into the pews. Can his own church board truly investigate and discipline that pastor?

Yes, they can. Unfortunately, I've seen it happen in a protestant church...and they were able to investigate and deal with it.

Bigger hierarchies aren't more efficient...see the catholic church for plentiful examples of that where offenders were simply reassigned to other locations where they continued to offend.

31 posted on 04/01/2007 11:00:36 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: ThomasThomas

Truth doesn't matter to narses.

Where does the Baptist buck stop? Southern Baptists acknowledge abuse among churches
http://www.leaderu.com/theology/southernbapt.html ^ | 7/14/2002 | Terry Mattingly


Posted on 03/31/2007 3:57:00 PM PDT by narses

Notice when narses POSTED THIS - TODAY 3/31/07

Notice when this article is dated 7/14/02

Yup, true or not, dear narses posted this FIVE years later. It isn't true but that wouldnb't matter to narses FIVE YEARS LATER.


32 posted on 04/01/2007 11:01:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: narses; nmh

narses, Care to explain why you posted a 5 year old article?
We'll wait.


33 posted on 04/01/2007 11:47:56 AM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: WKB

Read the thread. Pay attention to posts 10, 11 and 12.


34 posted on 04/01/2007 12:00:48 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: nmh

Calling people names is neither Christian nor allowable conduct at FR. If you have any literacy at all, you'd see why I posted this thread based on the comments here. Your attacks make your abilities in that arena clear.


35 posted on 04/01/2007 12:02:48 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

SO you knew what 10,11 and 12 were going to be
before you posted the thread?


36 posted on 04/01/2007 12:05:41 PM PDT by WKB (It's hard to tell who's more afraid of Fred Thompson; The Dims or the rudibots.)
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To: WKB; Alex Murphy

LOL, yes. Is English a foreign tongue for you? Try re-reading posts 10, 11 and 12. Then maybe ask Alex Murphy to break his explanation down into monosyllabic words and maybe draw a diagram.


37 posted on 04/01/2007 12:13:42 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Alex Murphy

See http://www.takecourage.org/updatesbc.htm for more and http://www.stopbaptistpredators.org/BaptistHideSeek.html for even more. The issues are cultural, criminal and sinful not denominational.


38 posted on 04/01/2007 12:17:21 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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