Posted on 02/16/2007 8:30:44 AM PST by meg88
..you are making the mistake of thinking I said "why" the won....I didn't say that at all....a common FR mistake. The other guy said there were no prolife or progun Dems running.....and I said, no, you are wrong....there were some running....I didn't say that is why they won
Of course but what he did for NYC Was good for NYC. He knows that the U.S. is hardly NYC and he is not going to take away guns. He didn't during his mayorship and he's not going to start as president.
Romney has a lot of convincing to do.
Reagan wrote this article because he sees the infighting going on in this party.
He's right, there is no way we can win if the party remains as fractured as it has become.
He also points out the fact that the Democrats have united all factions of their party to one effort. They WILL win when they keep their votes together, regardless of their differences.
Why do I think some of those here who so demand a strict "Reagan Conservative" were probably bad mouthing the man while in office.
Of course, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. It's the responcibility of the citizens to try to influence policy.
You're right! I just vaguely remember it. Reagan almost won too, didn't he?
Well that's your opinion. I don't think so.
To be against one candidate or the other is everybodys right and is exercised to the fullest in the primaries.
Once we have a nominee, forget about the my-candidate-lost-and-now-I'm-mad-at the "RINOS" or the Social Conservatives and that "somebody has to pay for trying to shove THEIR candidate down my throat", followed by a protest vote for Hillary or a non-vote by staying home.
Now, somebody is really gonna pay dearly and thats the US of A.
Grow up! it's not your principles; it's your country, stupid!
I don't believe that your "principles" will make you let the country down and enable it's destruction. I think a lot more of all of you than that.
I was talking to a few friends this week, about goign shooting this weekend. I mentioned Rino Rudy. All are members of the NRA and none will vote for him ever. Of the 3, one even mentioned voting rat if they nominate Edwards or Richards.
The same is true of Rudy Giuliani. On every major issue, he is a solidly conservative and extraordinarily adept executive, but because he backs abortion and some form of gun control, Americas mayor -- the hero of 9/11 ...
This is insane, Rudy is not "solidly conservative" on anything.
And 'some' gun control?!? That's complete B#LLSH*T. Rudy might as well be President of the Brady Bunch. His views on 'gun control' equal those of every despot dictator in the 20th Century. Federal Licensing and 'Testing' of ALL gun owners is NOT 'some' gun control.
Plus anyone who views Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg as a 'strict constructionist' as Rudy does is NOT solidly conservative. Rudy would appoint judges just like her. Not Alito, not Scalia, not Roberts. Every court, every appellate district would mirror the 9th circus. This is proved by his actions as mayor in appointing 62 DEMOCRAT judges out of 66.
As to 'America's Mayor' - nonsense. Oprah gave him that moniker. OPRAH!!! Rudy Julie-Annie is NOT my mayor and NEVER was.
And Julie-Annie is NO hero - period, end, stop. He is a political opportunist who has milked 9-11 for countless millions in personal gain.
I loathe the mutt!
When Reagan became a Republican, the party was much much more Moderate/liberal then it is today. Rudy would be considered a staunch conservative if he ran in the primaries in the 50's,60's, and 70's. Our party never became a real right of center party until the mid nineties. You think Rudy is bad on guns? You know as well as I do we used to have a lot of guys back in the day who did not want hand gun licenses but outright bans on them. From Eisenhower through Ford our candidates were either center right all the way to full on liberals in Nixon's case. Most of the people who were considered to be conservatives back in Reagan's day (Goldwater,Dole,etc.) are now considered to be centrists. By some of the litmus tests some people here want to put on our candidate like judges and immigration he would not pass muster. Reagan however was the Great President he was was not because he was 100% on all the issues but because he offered leadership and hope to our demoralized nation, slashed taxes and restrained spending pretty well considering the congress he had to work with, and he called a spade a spade and led the free world to victory against the evil and tyranny of the evil empire. In some cases the perfect is the enemy of the good.
I guess we'll see who "loses" in the primaries. If FR is divided, imagine the rest of the Republican party?
I'm not. I'm stating a fact. Reagan did the right thing. Had he not run in 1976, he may have lost to GHWB in 1980. And history would be very different.
That is hilarious, because that is me! but it was because i was in law school at the time, and a raging liberal! my sisterinlaw saved letters i wrote her at the time, depressed out of my mind that he had won!
Well it's a shame your friends will choose a Democrat for our Troops! Well I know plenty of gun owners who will vote for Rudy so I guess it will be 50/50. Rudy does not expect the NRA to endorse him and I'm sure he's not biting his nails over it.
My apologies :)
From what I've heard, it was worse in 2000 on the F.R. And G.W.Bush didn't win the polls here then.
Okay, thanks :-)
I think that is correct....but I think blogs, forums etc do have moderate members but are usually controlled by the far left or right....therefore, you always see more infighting on sites like this.....I think most mainstream's will vote for the Republican...though I'm sure some Evangelicals might stay home if a Rudy or Rommney were on the ticket.. Always thought that line of reasoning was flawed....as if they think they will be better off with a Hillary or Obama
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