Posted on 01/23/2007 5:52:17 PM PST by NotchJohnson
They used the same tactics against his father George Romney in the Michigan Gubernatorial Race as well.
I am interested in Romney's candidacy.
I would not rule out voting for him because he is a Mormon.
So, let's discuss Romney's fitness as leader, not his Mormon religion.
Yes.
I can do that.
He is a squishy RINO. He sounds and looks good but he's all jello in the middle. His views and beliefs change with the wind.
Neither he nor Rudy will ever get my vote.
It hasn't escaped your notice, I'm sure, that Bill Press has been a hitman for the liberal democrats for decades. This 'surely Brutus is an honorable man' crap coming from Press is aimed squarely to create division, not discuss the fitness of Romney. Let's not fall for this crap.
George Romney was a bit of a megalomaniac in my less than objective opinion, but not because he was a Mormon...just a thing that you do to check your blood glucose.
Oh for the days when good old 'Soapy' Williams was the genial host of Michigan.
God has given us all, special talents.
PS Go Boilers beat IU!
Some of us with long memories know the tactics and subtle attack words used by bigots of all stripes and see these hate mongers for what they are.
The Nicene Creed contains what Christians hold to and believe. Do Mormons believe this?
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],
who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come.
I know that Mormons do not believe that Jesus is fully God and that He is a created being. That pretty much ends the discussion right there. Show me that Mormons hold that Jesus is God (begotten, not made).
While we're at it, if one is able to equate Mormonism with Christianity, one may not be aware of Christian beliefs and as a result, not a Christian.
Gut check time. Time for a "come to Jesus" moment. I'm available via FreepMail for more info.
I can still see the BIG BOW TIE of Soapy's, LOL
I happen to believe both Romney and Giuliani will move toward more conservative decisions when pressure mounts. Neither of these men is as conservative as I would like or desire ... I'm a pro-life advocate. But with the other issues at stake, I have to believe Romney and Giuliani will appoint Constitutionally oriented Judges and will move to restrict or terminate the Roe influence when the pressure rises from we the conservative people ... and I have every intention to increase the pressure when either of these men gets elected to President! BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN ELECTED TO EVEN HOPE TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD. Now, which of the electable Republicans is most fit to direct this nation?
MORMONS ARE MORONS MOSTLY
What makes you say that? What makes them "morons"? Because they are Mormons?
Bill Press is former Chairman of the CA Democrat Party.
I'd vote for a Satanist (or even worst...a Muslim) if he'd support limited government, respect for the Constitution, free-markets, low taxes and defense of the American people.
Unfortunately, the current leadership of the LDS Church is not nearly so clear on the proper role of government. The church whose people were once subjected to military attack by federal forces bent on stopping them from practicing the polygamy aspect of their faith, is now far more interested in rallying its forces to keep government in the business of regulating and licensing marriages, than in preventing the onward march of socialism.
AFAIK, Newt Gingrich stands for all of your principles AND he's not a Satanist.
The Mormon thing is not going away folks. It will get worse and worse.
We are conservatives here and look what it's doing to us. Do you really think there is a snowballs chance in hell that the squishy Dem middle ground will vote for a Republican who belongs to a cultish religion with a background in racial discrimination, polygamy, murder, bank fraud, lies, distortions and a good PR firm.
The country is not gonna plug their nose and vote for this RINO. It ain't gonna happen.
If we select him as our candidate, we're toast! Mitt is in the Mormon leadership hind pocket. Mormonism is not just another religion. Their financial interests are protected by a mantel of tax-exemtion but they are big money....bigger by far, and more powerful than any....ANY, US Corporation, and Mitt is part of the heirarchy.
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