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Save America with the ‘Fair Tax Act’
The Courier ^ | August 31,2006 | Gordon Bishop

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:18:40 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: navyguy
Further, I have never made any specific statement today about 'keeping 100% of you paycheck'.

Are you the rare FairTaxer who says that workers' gross pay will be reduced to current take-home levels? If so, take it up with your FairTax buddies, none of them will admit that this is even remotely possible. I have discussed this esact scenario on those threads I directed you too.

I think that the only way that the FT made any sense is for people to get a pay cut to current take-home, but that idea was ridiculed by the FairTaxers. Since the FairTax authorities have made "Keep 100% of your paycheck" one of their rallying cries, I think it will be hard to take that away now, and contracts are also a big sticking point.

221 posted on 09/03/2006 5:10:20 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Mojave

If I can prove that you have two screen names, you never again post to FreeRepublic under any screen name? If I can't prove it I leave.


222 posted on 09/03/2006 5:11:30 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: navyguy
Back then everyone knew EXACTLY how much they paid.

They still do if they file a return. The Fair Tax entitlement program would provide no such yearly accounting to retail buyers stuck with the 30% federal sales tax.

223 posted on 09/03/2006 5:12:02 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Man50D

ANYTHING has to be better than this system we've got.

Federal, state, local, sales, property, air, gas, death, everything, etc., etc., and on and on.

I want a one-tax system for state, fed, and local.


224 posted on 09/03/2006 5:12:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Your Nightmare

Today, someone earning 26400 gets income taxed and payroll taxed. His purchasing power is below 26400 but you still say he gets 26400 in goods. OK. Well then why does someone who pays their taxes later not get the same?

You are playing games trying to omit the reduction in buying power that the income tax causes. Why do you recognize the reduction caused by the nrst but not the reduction caused by the income tax system?


225 posted on 09/03/2006 5:13:30 PM PDT by Principled
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To: navyguy
I will ask yet again: Have you read the Fair Tax book?

You must be hard of hearing, or you are just ignoring what I am saying. Also, if you do not support the Fair Tax then what tax plan do you support?

The point is irrelevant to the present discussion the problems and merits of the FairTax, but it is answered fully on those threads in which I discuss "The FairTax Book" at great length..

226 posted on 09/03/2006 5:13:53 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: xzins
I want a one-tax system for state, fed, and local.

Can I get a a good AMEN!!!!!?

That would be an eye opener eh? Think that would put downward pressure on taxes and gov't spending!?

227 posted on 09/03/2006 5:15:20 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Zon
If I can prove that you have two screen names, you never again post to FreeRepublic under any screen name? If I can't prove it I leave

Agreed.

The Roscoe account has been closed for years.

Now take your accusations to the mods.

And assuming you're honest, adios.

228 posted on 09/03/2006 5:15:42 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: xzins
ANYTHING has to be better than this system we've got.

That is ridiculous in the extreme. ANYTHING is better than the present system where we have an economy that is roaring along, as well as an overall standard of living greater than anything the world has ever seen. Plus, it is continuing to improve.

And you think that ANYTHING is better than the present system?

229 posted on 09/03/2006 5:17:33 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Mojave

Zon: If I can prove that you have two screen names, you never again post to FreeRepublic under any screen name? If I can't prove it I leave. 222 

Mojave: Agreed. 228

To: Mojave
Mojave, aka, Roscoe, ping to 1,229
1,230 posted on 11/12/2005 12:49:30 PM EST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)

 


To: Zon
aka

fka

1,281 posted on 11/13/2005 5:48:38 AM EST by Mojave

 


230 posted on 09/03/2006 5:20:54 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Principled

Reading it verbatim that seems to be the case because no explicit poverty qualification is mentioned. Under the definition of "Qaulified Family" it isn't explicitly demanded.


231 posted on 09/03/2006 5:21:15 PM PDT by navyguy
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To: xcamel

Translation: Nope, I've never read the Fair Tax book or really studied this issue and I'm just talking out my wazoo.


232 posted on 09/03/2006 5:22:13 PM PDT by navyguy
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To: Principled; xzins
1. I want a one-tax system for state, fed, and local.

2. Can I get a a good AMEN!!!!!?

Completely centralized government AND a national monthly entitlement check for everyone.

Fascinating.

233 posted on 09/03/2006 5:22:14 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: navyguy
"They don't tax the sale of new homes like the fairtax." The FT has no provision to 'tax the sale of new homes'. It will replace the tax you ALREADY PAY when you buy a new home. The taxes YOU ALREADY are a conglomeration of many different taxes paid by everyone involved in the construction of the home. THEY paid the state tax and passed that cost onto you when you bought the home.

So, the FairTax on a new home will only apply to actual construction costs and not profit? For instance, if a contractor spends $150,000 for materials and labor and sells the home for $500,000, only $150,000 will be subject to tax, not the entire $500,000 selling price?

234 posted on 09/03/2006 5:22:38 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Mojave

Bye Mojave/Roscoe. Excuse me, Mojave, aka/fka Roscoe.


235 posted on 09/03/2006 5:22:48 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: navyguy

You don't know much about the FairTax, do you?


236 posted on 09/03/2006 5:22:54 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: Zon

Thanks for your last post on FR.


237 posted on 09/03/2006 5:23:09 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: navyguy
Nope, I've never read the Fair Tax book or really studied this issue and I'm just talking out my wazoo.

Finally, you admit the truth.

238 posted on 09/03/2006 5:24:45 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: RobFromGa

I thought the discussion was about the tax system. Excuse me for commenting if I'm wrong. The title said it was about the tax system, and not the economy.

If, however, this thread IS about the tax system, then let me repeat: ANYTHING is better than this tax system with its millions of pages of rulings and code and comments and ins and outs and abuses.

It is incoherent, incomprehensible, and a tremendous drain on ME. And I could give a rat's a$$ if corporations with teams of lawyers know how to flex it to their advantage.

Rat's Behind! And I'm serious. I HATE IT!


239 posted on 09/03/2006 5:26:55 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: navyguy
Translation: I won't play "stupid liberal debate tricks" with you either. Move along, newbie.
240 posted on 09/03/2006 5:28:28 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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