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Coulter vs Darwin
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| 06/06
| Ann Coulter
Posted on 06/09/2006 6:16:57 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz
"Those "intermediaries", i.e. ostriches, kiwis, penguins and the like which one assumes is what you are talking about, are on their way down, and not on their way up."
On their way out? lol
"All are descended from birds which used to fly."
And all are adapted excellently to their environments.
"What you're talking about is equivalent to looking at wrecked cars in a junkyard and claiming that they are metal and rubber evolving their way to being fully functional cars in the showroom a few years hence, and that they are about halfway there."
Not at all. Please don;t put your silly words in my mouth. I am talking about highly adapted, successful intermediaries.
Still waiting for your explanation for your calculations...
To: tomzz
"The material in the picture is what it is."
And that means it is not meat.
"There's no way in hell you can apply any sort of chemical treatment to 65 million year old materials and derive anything which looks like that."
So, you have evidence that everybody involved, researchers, reporters, EVERYBODY is lying? Where do you get this magic info that nobody else has?
Again for the lurkers, the picture in question shows a 3mm in diameter piece of the inside of a fossil that under chemical treatment became soft. It has (possibly) the remnants of blood in it, though no blood cells were found nor any DNA, and most certainly no meat. Meat is muscle. Again, the area in question is 3mm in diameter.
To: tomzz
Has it ever occurred to you that Intelligent Design over millions of years by the Hand of God might be an answer?No. I don't picture God using unworkable methods.
Infants with "unworkable" bodies such as those with Potter syndrome (born without any kidneys and with barely functional lungs) are born every day in the World and die after a few hours. Being part of the birth of such an infant and witnessing its inevitable death within a matter of hours was one of my most difficult experiences in medical school.
It is not for us to put limits on what God can or cannot do or what God will or won't do. Such matters are for God, not us, to decide.
In any case, the matter still remains that, however you believe the birth and inevitable deaths of those doomed infants ties into God's methods and plan has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of your political beliefs or anybody else's political beliefs.
To: CarolinaGuitarman; tomzz
Well that is good OJ jury thinking. They wanted to see more of OJ's blood splashed around, and ignored that any amount at the scene was a serious problem.
It does not appear that anyone is denying there is no tissue of biological origin in the image, but rather perhaps steer away from that as you attempt. And that is the point, that its there as opposed to not there.
For the lurkers and all.
W.
924
posted on
06/14/2006 7:07:36 AM PDT
by
RunningWolf
(Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
To: tomzz
ROFLMAO You are looking at B.S. I seem to remember Jack Horner finding the major discovery of a dinosaur heart, complete with liquid blood! What he had was some sandstone with some iron in it. Hardly a heart. Just the fact that it was found in Sandstone should have set of the warning signals. Sandstone is porous. And the articles you are talking about are from March 2005. They should have had time to get some DNA by now. Or by some miracle, did the soft tissue stay, and all the DNA ran off? You are looking at a scam perpetrated by a creationist trying to get attention. Seems like they could have at least said they found the T-Rex in clay, or a bog, or something other than sandstone. Oh well, stupid is as stupid does I guess. EVEN FUNNIER is that this "scientist" compared the T-Rex material to ostriches because that is the T-Rex's closest relative. Closest by Evolution? ROFLMAO So, evolution is a big lie, unless we can find dinosaur meat only a few thousand years old. Then we can claim that the T-Rex evolved into an ostrich over the last few thousand years, and then there must be a God. Just Dang.
And remember for future reference, these media outlets are the same people who bring you news Dan Rather style. They are lost as last years Easter Eggs 99 percent of the time.
925
posted on
06/14/2006 7:13:53 AM PDT
by
SaveUS
Comment #926 Removed by Moderator
To: RunningWolf; tomzz
"It does not appear that anyone is denying there is no tissue of biological origin in the image, but rather perhaps steer away from that as you attempt."
1) Your sentence makes no sense, grammatically.
2) Tomzz DOES claim that tissue of biological origin is in the image. He claims that the researchers are lying and that meat like hamburger was found in the fossil. He has nothing to back this up, but he says it anyway. I'll go by what the researchers say, not Tomzz.
To: CarolinaGuitarman
It's bat meat. I'm pretty sure.
928
posted on
06/14/2006 7:17:40 AM PDT
by
Senator Bedfellow
(If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
To: UseYourNoodle
"If intelligent design (intelligent denial)is true how do you explain the existence of Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson?"
I'm sorry, that is proof FOR ID. Let's see. Proof of no ID would be any Liberal currently breathing air. That should cover all of them.
929
posted on
06/14/2006 7:19:09 AM PDT
by
SaveUS
To: CarolinaGuitarman
I think the "meat" designation is a result of the color of the sample. If you follow the legend for the photos, you would notice that the parts labeled flexible are not red.
Of course petrified wood is often red, for whatever that is worth.
I suppose one's straw should exceed one's grasp.
930
posted on
06/14/2006 7:33:01 AM PDT
by
js1138
(Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
To: js1138
"If you follow the legend for the photos, you would notice that the parts labeled flexible are not red."
Bingo. It's a little white strip that is flexible (after the chemical treatment).
To: js1138
"Of course petrified wood is often red, for whatever that is worth."
Yep. And a hunk of sandstone with iron is a heart. LOL The "tyrannosaur meat" will have to go down as the funniest punchline in joke history... "and then HE said, no, that's Tyrannosaur meat." Who writes these?
932
posted on
06/14/2006 8:49:55 AM PDT
by
SaveUS
To: The_Reader_David
*more from Ann. She is being interviewed by Mr. Hawkins at
Right wing newsJohn Hawkins: If you were to pick three concepts, facts, or ideas that most undercut the theory of evolution, what would they be?
Ann Coulter: 1. It's illogical. 2. There's no physical evidence for it. 3. There's physical evidence that directly contradicts it. Apart from those three concerns I'd say it's a pretty solid theory.
John Hawkins: If the science behind evolution doesn't stand-up, why do you think so many people who should know better so fervently believe in evolution?
Ann Coulter: A century of brain-washing combined with a desperate need to not believe in an intelligent designer.
John Hawkins: Do you think evolution, intelligent design, or something else should be taught in schools?
Ann Coulter: I would say teach them the one that has the strongest scientific basis to it, and if there's any time left over at the end of the day you could also teach them about the theory of evolution.
*LOL Ann doesn't back down
933
posted on
06/14/2006 9:31:43 AM PDT
by
bornacatholic
(Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
To: tomzz
Moreover, in probability theory, to compute the combined probability of two or more things happening at the same time, you multiply the individual probabilities together. Incorrect. It's a common mistake though.
934
posted on
06/14/2006 12:01:01 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: tomzz
That's what tyranosaur meat looks like. Still not using the original photos with the scale I see. That "meat" is actually bone particles smaller than a flake of dandruff.
935
posted on
06/14/2006 2:15:21 PM PDT
by
Deadshot Drifter
(Lib Wackos have the Center for Science in the Public Interest. CRIDers have the Discovery Institute)
To: Deadshot Drifter
"Still not using the original photos with the scale I see. That "meat" is actually bone particles smaller than a flake of dandruff."
Size may not be an issue if it tastes like chicken. Any takers? Tyrranosaur Meat. BWHAHA! I hear the best way to cook it is on a board....
936
posted on
06/14/2006 2:42:28 PM PDT
by
SaveUS
To: bornacatholic
I would say teach them the one that has the strongest scientific basis to it, and if there's any time left over at the end of the day you could also teach them about the theory of evolution. She has become a caricature of herself. Sad.
937
posted on
06/14/2006 6:23:44 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
To: SaveUS
This is what bronto meat looks like...
938
posted on
06/14/2006 9:09:05 PM PDT
by
Deadshot Drifter
(Lib Wackos have the Center for Science in the Public Interest. CRIDers have the Discovery Institute)
To: Deadshot Drifter
That looks Yaba Daba delicious.
939
posted on
06/15/2006 4:19:09 AM PDT
by
SaveUS
To: Doctor Stochastic
"Ann's ignorance of the subject isn't unexpected in a lawyer."
*ROTFLMAO*
The only thing bigger than a typical lawyer's ego, is, well, another lawyer's ego....
940
posted on
06/18/2006 2:04:14 AM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
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