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Terri's Day and nation's independence protects life culture
Renew America ^ | May 29, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by KevinNuPac

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To: All; T'wit
Body parts...(from ProLifeBlogs)

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Religious conservatives Monday criticized legislation in the U.S. Senate that would use federal taxpayer dollars to pay for embryonic stem cell research. "The Senate should not be tinkering in the baby body parts business, except to ban it and to punish it," said Paul Chaim Schenck, director of the National Pro-Life Action Center.

Backers of the legislation to fund more research say the testing would be conducted on excess embryos created during in vitro fertilization and stored at fertility clinics, and that the embryos would otherwise be discarded. The National Pro-Life Action Center insists that the use of these embryos represents the destruction of human life and is ethically wrong.

"To date, without exception, all of the miracle cures found from stem cell research come from adult stem cells," said Nancy Fortier Paltell, who is the associate director of the Respect for Life Department at the Maryland Catholic Conference.

"When all of these diseases are being cured, why are we even talking about embryonic stem cells?" she asked at Monday's news conference on Capitol Hill.

Stem Cell Research is 'Baby Part Business,' Say Prolifers

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561 posted on 06/21/2006 4:14:35 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Oh, no! There's an earworm if I ever heard one. Can't you just hear Mary Poppins singing, "Just a spoonful of sugar makes the hemlock go down, the hemlock go down, the hemlock go down........!"


562 posted on 06/21/2006 4:18:03 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: 8mmMauser
New Hampshire used to boast, "Live free or die." Now it's just, "Die." Pass the grape kool-aid.

Hmmm. Residents of Maine must pass through New Hampshire en route to the United States. Now it's not safe. They'll have to fly out or take a lengthy detour out to sea.

563 posted on 06/21/2006 4:24:24 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; BykrBayb; amdgmary; bjs1779
I'm sorry, but we have a bad situation here. To publish these leads is to solicit paid subscriptions to NCG. I believe that is against Free Republic rules. Am I getting that right?

Good point! I was pondering that. Problem is NCG does have some articles found nowhere else, but in some cases only the summary is offered, that which I can post. To read the rest, a subscription is required, and I am not going to post the rest of the story even if I have a subscription, which I do not have. Perhaps I should not post those leads at all, only stories not requiring subscriptions. No way would I knowingly go against FreeRepublic rules.

That is how we do with other items requiring subscription. I skip over them, usually finding the same article elsewhere, unrestricted.

Any input? Otherwise, I will skip over these subscription items too.

564 posted on 06/21/2006 4:26:36 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> spouses such as Mr. Schiavo, whose main concern was getting on with his new life, and the insurance proceeds he would be gaining in the process.

PLUS, personal revenge, celebrity, private jet trips to Las Vegas, and potentially many millions of dollars in TV, book and movie rights to the murder story.

565 posted on 06/21/2006 4:30:17 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit

OTOH New Hampshire buffers Maine from the United States and we still are allowed to have private property here, which we can rent from the government at very low rates. "Live free or not."

It is also possible to head north to Quebec and then down through New York.


566 posted on 06/21/2006 4:31:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
We have been questioned here, even by sympathetic posters, on how serious the body parts business has become to medicine. A recent post by wagglebee leaves no doubt that they're out to get more body parts: New Jersey Looking to Harvest More Organs by Easing "Brain Death" Criteria

In other words, loosen the rules for killing patients so they can help themselves to the body parts. Worth a lot of money! The same cannibalistic urge is at work in stem cell lobbying.

567 posted on 06/21/2006 4:54:59 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit; wagglebee

Sometimes people think we are roaming off topic on these items, but it all relates to the greater goals of the death ghouls. Same with abortion issues. Some say these topics should be about Terri related issues, not abortions, but it all connects.


568 posted on 06/21/2006 4:59:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Some people think Terri is just a bad symbol for the right to life since she was only kept alive by extraordinary means. The people you want to convince will only be convinced you're keep away at all costs fanatics.


569 posted on 06/21/2006 5:04:44 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit

I think that organ harvesting is possibly the most dangerous facet of the culture of death. They will now want our dead bodies when we are still relatively healthy and the ramifications of that scare the hell out of me.

As for abortion, consider this, the genocidal maniacs of the 20th Century (Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot) COMBINED killed less people than Roe v. Wade.


570 posted on 06/21/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: DManA

That's keep away at all costs fanatics.


571 posted on 06/21/2006 5:06:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Weird, won't let me use the word de*th.


572 posted on 06/21/2006 5:07:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 8mmMauser

June Maxam has every right to seek payment for her work. But she is doing it differently from many online publishers, who seek to get paid from advertising instead of subscriptions. With ads, you want as many readers as possible, so you make your articles public. June's work is original and exclusive, so you'd think she could attract many readers and do well seeking her revenues from advertising.


573 posted on 06/21/2006 5:14:27 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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>> Weird, won't let me use the word de*th.

Try something more stylish, like "nonvoluntary euthanasia."

574 posted on 06/21/2006 5:23:05 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: DManA
Some people think Terri is just a bad symbol for the right to life since she was only kept alive by extraordinary means.

When society reaches a point that food and water constitute extraordinary means for keeping a person alive we are all screwed!

575 posted on 06/21/2006 5:24:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: DManA
>> Terri is just a bad symbol for the right to life since she was only kept alive by extraordinary means

Anyone who thinks water and food are "extraordinary means" is intellectually dishonest and should be sent to his room without supper.

576 posted on 06/21/2006 5:26:04 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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Anyone who thinks water and food are "extraordinary means" is intellectually dishonest and should be sent to his room without supper.

To experience "euphoria."/sarcasm off

577 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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>> I think that organ harvesting is possibly the most dangerous facet of the culture of death.

Agree. It adds a profit motive and that can only spur the whole business. I know, it's all supposed to be "donations" to "organ banks" for the public good. But that's all so much trash talk. The organs are valuable. The hospital chop shops are in place to realize that profit. If they can't make the profit on one level, they'll barter a deal on another.

578 posted on 06/21/2006 5:32:07 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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There was a series of articles in my local paper last week about the body parts "business" and it is a huge money maker. The "non-profits" that cannibalize corpses are allowed to charge a "reasonable fee" for doing so.

Don't get me wrong, I think organ donation is wonderful and has saved millions of lives. If I was killed in a car crash today, I want my organs to be used to help others. However, the slippery slope we're on is starting to reach a point when living people will be murdered for their organs.


579 posted on 06/21/2006 5:39:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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The method of getting it into her is extraordinary since it wasn't even an option until about 20 years ago. So we must have all beens screwed for 99.9999% of our existence on Earth.


580 posted on 06/21/2006 5:45:25 AM PDT by DManA
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