Evolution's bottom line

National Center for Science Education ^ | 12 May 2006 | Staff

[VadeRetro]

Christians don't attempt to hide who they are.

You seem unaware of the "You can't call me a creationist" creationists who swear they aren't all that religious but don't like evolution because:

• Evolution says there is no God and thus it's OK to lie and murder
• The Third Law of Geodynamics says it's impossible, same reason your room won't stay cleaned up
• "There are a lot of cool arguments against evolution on THIS site [url pointing to AiG, ICR, Bible.CA, etc.], not that I'm religious myself. Sorry I don't know how to link."

Sure.

[Dimensio]

So next time ask a pro-homosexual agenda activist if they believe in evolution, why are they promoting behavior which is inconsistent with Darwin's postulates (natural selection and survival of the fittest). Homosexual behavior doesn't propagate the species, and therefore is illogical and inconsistent with good evolutionary theory.

You are appealing to an is-ought fallacy, and also demonstrating a lack of understanding of genetics.

[aimhigh]

Blaming Hitler's actions on evolution only demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of what evolution is.

Blame that on Hitler. He took the false doctrine, and said, "We'll survive and Jews won't."

There are no great medicines resulting from evolutionary theory. Every time there is a great discover, I always see the words, "Scientists were surprised to find...".

[shuckmaster]

When the German armies conquired new towns, the first people killed were evangelical preachers.

Whether or not you admit that you just made that up, you really should consider how ignorant you're making yourself appear in a conservative public discussion forum.

[visually_augmented]

shuck: "I believe what the author is saying is that medical or agricultural science would still be in the dark ages if not for the theory of evolution. That of course is the truth."

This must be the same line of reasoning that got us to the doctrine of evolution in the first place.

Scientific method was founded long, long before the theory of evolution came to be widely accepted. The same is true of biological science. To say that biological sciences hinge on the concept of macro-evolution is perposterous.

[Dimensio]

If you are going to make such an accusation prove it.

I have observed that while JCEccles has made a number of negative assertions regarding the theory of evolution, he or she has provided evidence for absolutely none of them. I believe that JCEccles is a troll.

[js1138]

I don't know. I forget; was BTK a biology teacher or a scout leader and regular churchgoer? Ideas do have consequences.

[jec41]

So, you can proudly claim NAZIism, which is a result of evolutionary doctrine.

Actually Hitler proclaimed to be Christian and and his form of Nazism was from his Christian beliefs. He just believed Jesus a Gentile and not a Jew.

[Virginia-American]

My favorite example of money making using evolution is prospecting for oil.

Society of Economic Paleontologists and Mineralogists

The essay at the above link has a great description of the transition between reptiles and mammals.

If nonstandard geology or biology were true, one could them to find more oil than the deluded followers of uniformatism and Darwinism can.

Hint: I'm not investing in a creationist oil prospecting company. Neither is Shell, Exxon, BP, etc.

Glenn Morton is a famous example of a YECer who saw the light.

[Dimensio]

Then there's always reproduction, which couldn't have evolved since it had to work from the beginning.

Correct. Evolution is the result of reproduction occuring. The means by which reproducing (or, as some call it, imperfectly replicating) entites came to exist in the first place is not addressed by the theory of evolution.

[Elpasser]

This is really silly and tiresome. Does anyone seriously believe that we creationists don't understand and appreciate genetics and adaptability of organisms? The fact that organisms are adaptable does not prove evolutionary descent.

Indeed, it was my rigorous education in organic chemistry and biological science that made me realize that life simply cannot organize itself. It's just foolish to imagine that something as complex and vulnerable as a DNA spiral can self organize, protect itself from the elements without any reason for doing so, and then reproduce itself. Experiments to replicate this, even under the most optimistic conditions, all failed and were largely abandoned in the 1990's.

Evolutionists seem so desperate to deny creationists and ID'ers a forum and to debate the science. It is a dead giveaway about whose "science" is really the house of cards.

[mlc9852]

Exactly what proof would convince you? Those who refuse to believe in God aren't going to be convinced by me. Of course you aren't going to convince me humans descended from ape-like creatures either.

[connectthedots]

one Web site that lists companies looking for workers in biotechnology has more than 600 hiring scientists in California and more than 240 in Massachusetts. Kansas has 11.

There are three kinds of escalating lies: Ordinary lies; damn lies; and, statistics. This is the latter.

To trot out such a lame statistic serves only to discredit the author.

How many companies were hiring scientists prior to the state of Kansas making their minor change in curriculum?

[mlc9852]

Sorry - it's already in the classrooms. And you know what - people still believe in God as the creator. Too bad you don't.

[shuckmaster]

Refresh my memory, was it Darwin, Wallace, Huxley, Haeckel, or Martin Luther who wrote an influential essay On the Jews and their Lies

Easy! Everyone knows the answer to that question! It was the guy who started the protestant religion.

[Dimensio]

Christians don't attempt to hide who they are.

Dr. Scott attempted to hide who he is?

[Junior]

However, the Hindus may be right after all, and I get to go through all this crap again.

There is no empirical data that suggests the Christian version of the afterlife, or indeed any particular version of the afterlife (or even the existence of an afterlife) is true. Therefore, your off-the-cuff "you'll see" really has absolutely no more effect than breaking wind in a hurricane.

[JCEccles]

See #70. One of evolution science's brightest stars has called out the knuckeheaded Darwinists on their faith claims and religious fervor. He serves it up better than I could, so feast up.

[JCEccles]

See #70. One of evolution science's brightest stars has called out the knuckeheaded Darwinists on their faith claims and religious fervor. He serves it up better than I could, so feast up.

[Virginia-American]

What they conveniently fail to mention is that Eugenie Scott is a self-professed atheist.

Self-professed? What other kind of atheist is there? Or Christian for that matter.