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Evolution's bottom line
National Center for Science Education ^ | 12 May 2006 | Staff

Posted on 05/12/2006 12:13:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: mlc9852
Christians don't attempt to hide who they are.

You seem unaware of the "You can't call me a creationist" creationists who swear they aren't all that religious but don't like evolution because:

Sure.
81 posted on 05/12/2006 1:05:57 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: lexfreedom
So next time ask a pro-homosexual agenda activist if they believe in evolution, why are they promoting behavior which is inconsistent with Darwin's postulates (natural selection and survival of the fittest). Homosexual behavior doesn't propagate the species, and therefore is illogical and inconsistent with good evolutionary theory.

You are appealing to an is-ought fallacy, and also demonstrating a lack of understanding of genetics.
82 posted on 05/12/2006 1:06:32 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Blaming Hitler's actions on evolution only demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of what evolution is.

Blame that on Hitler. He took the false doctrine, and said, "We'll survive and Jews won't."

There are no great medicines resulting from evolutionary theory. Every time there is a great discover, I always see the words, "Scientists were surprised to find...".

83 posted on 05/12/2006 1:06:34 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
When the German armies conquired new towns, the first people killed were evangelical preachers.

Whether or not you admit that you just made that up, you really should consider how ignorant you're making yourself appear in a conservative public discussion forum.

84 posted on 05/12/2006 1:06:54 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: shuckmaster

shuck: "I believe what the author is saying is that medical or agricultural science would still be in the dark ages if not for the theory of evolution. That of course is the truth."

This must be the same line of reasoning that got us to the doctrine of evolution in the first place.

Scientific method was founded long, long before the theory of evolution came to be widely accepted. The same is true of biological science. To say that biological sciences hinge on the concept of macro-evolution is perposterous.


85 posted on 05/12/2006 1:07:29 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: hawkaw; JCEccles
If you are going to make such an accusation prove it.

I have observed that while JCEccles has made a number of negative assertions regarding the theory of evolution, he or she has provided evidence for absolutely none of them. I believe that JCEccles is a troll.
86 posted on 05/12/2006 1:07:44 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Virginia-American

I don't know. I forget; was BTK a biology teacher or a scout leader and regular churchgoer? Ideas do have consequences.


87 posted on 05/12/2006 1:07:49 PM PDT by js1138
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To: aimhigh; All
So, you can proudly claim NAZIism, which is a result of evolutionary doctrine.

Actually Hitler proclaimed to be Christian and and his form of Nazism was from his Christian beliefs. He just believed Jesus a Gentile and not a Jew.

88 posted on 05/12/2006 1:07:58 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: PatrickHenry
My favorite example of money making using evolution is prospecting for oil.

Society of Economic Paleontologists and Mineralogists

The essay at the above link has a great description of the transition between reptiles and mammals.

If nonstandard geology or biology were true, one could them to find more oil than the deluded followers of uniformatism and Darwinism can.

Hint: I'm not investing in a creationist oil prospecting company. Neither is Shell, Exxon, BP, etc.

Glenn Morton is a famous example of a YECer who saw the light.

89 posted on 05/12/2006 1:08:35 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: onedoug
Then there's always reproduction, which couldn't have evolved since it had to work from the beginning.

Correct. Evolution is the result of reproduction occuring. The means by which reproducing (or, as some call it, imperfectly replicating) entites came to exist in the first place is not addressed by the theory of evolution.
90 posted on 05/12/2006 1:08:41 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: PatrickHenry

This is really silly and tiresome. Does anyone seriously believe that we creationists don't understand and appreciate genetics and adaptability of organisms? The fact that organisms are adaptable does not prove evolutionary descent.

Indeed, it was my rigorous education in organic chemistry and biological science that made me realize that life simply cannot organize itself. It's just foolish to imagine that something as complex and vulnerable as a DNA spiral can self organize, protect itself from the elements without any reason for doing so, and then reproduce itself. Experiments to replicate this, even under the most optimistic conditions, all failed and were largely abandoned in the 1990's.

Evolutionists seem so desperate to deny creationists and ID'ers a forum and to debate the science. It is a dead giveaway about whose "science" is really the house of cards.


91 posted on 05/12/2006 1:09:35 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Junior

Exactly what proof would convince you? Those who refuse to believe in God aren't going to be convinced by me. Of course you aren't going to convince me humans descended from ape-like creatures either.


92 posted on 05/12/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: PatrickHenry
one Web site that lists companies looking for workers in biotechnology has more than 600 hiring scientists in California and more than 240 in Massachusetts. Kansas has 11.

There are three kinds of escalating lies: Ordinary lies; damn lies; and, statistics. This is the latter.

To trot out such a lame statistic serves only to discredit the author.

How many companies were hiring scientists prior to the state of Kansas making their minor change in curriculum?

93 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:31 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: RadioAstronomer

Sorry - it's already in the classrooms. And you know what - people still believe in God as the creator. Too bad you don't.


94 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:39 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Virginia-American
Refresh my memory, was it Darwin, Wallace, Huxley, Haeckel, or Martin Luther who wrote an influential essay On the Jews and their Lies

Easy! Everyone knows the answer to that question! It was the guy who started the protestant religion.

95 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:40 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: mlc9852
Christians don't attempt to hide who they are.

Dr. Scott attempted to hide who he is?


96 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:44 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: betty boop
However, the Hindus may be right after all, and I get to go through all this crap again.

There is no empirical data that suggests the Christian version of the afterlife, or indeed any particular version of the afterlife (or even the existence of an afterlife) is true. Therefore, your off-the-cuff "you'll see" really has absolutely no more effect than breaking wind in a hurricane.

97 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:45 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Dimensio; Right Wing Professor; VadeRetro; CarolinaGuitarman

See #70. One of evolution science's brightest stars has called out the knuckeheaded Darwinists on their faith claims and religious fervor. He serves it up better than I could, so feast up.


98 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:51 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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To: Dimensio; Right Wing Professor; VadeRetro; CarolinaGuitarman

See #70. One of evolution science's brightest stars has called out the knuckeheaded Darwinists on their faith claims and religious fervor. He serves it up better than I could, so feast up.


99 posted on 05/12/2006 1:10:51 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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To: visually_augmented; aimhigh; mlc9852
What they conveniently fail to mention is that Eugenie Scott is a self-professed atheist.

Self-professed? What other kind of atheist is there? Or Christian for that matter.

100 posted on 05/12/2006 1:11:20 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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