Scientific Illiteracy and the Partisan Takeover of Biology

National Center for Science Education ^ | 18 April 2006 | Staff

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Well this guy attacking you is definitely no scientist."

Never said I was.

"He infers he might be a historian."

I "infer" it from the degree in history I received from NCSU.

"but I doubt even that, certainly not a professional or published historian."

Is that what makes one a *true* historian?

"Old Landmarks noticed I have an uncanny grasp of the obvious LOL."

Except... you were dead wrong in 902; the question had already been answered.

"These people (at least this one) are not about debate."

The irony is palpable. You have NEVER entered one of these threads to debate, only to disrupt.

"Talk past him and to the lurkers. That is who counts, not the cultist nutball with the evo-crackerjack credentials. His taunts carry about as much weight too."

The lurkers can plainly see that it was not I who made a claim I was unwilling to back up. They're all not as dumb as you are. :)

[ml1954]

Obviously your are incapable if backing up and supporting your assertion that evolution is too broad to be a scientific theory.

Apparently, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Liberal Classic]

All you have done is state the two main postulates of general relativity. You have not "stated the special theory of relativity" as you are asking others to do with evolutionary theory. Others have already directed you to links containing the definition and main postulates of evolutionary theory.

As you have made the claim evolution is too broad, the burden is on you to describe the theory and demonstrate how it is too broad.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"As you have made the claim evolution is too broad, the burden is on you to describe the theory and demonstrate how it is too broad."

You have to understand, anti-evolutionists have a very unique idea about burden of proof. In their world, if they make a claim, it is up to YOU to provide evidence for it.

[js1138]

Perhaps I exaggerated, but not by much. I see no room for modern medicine in editor's posts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1588489/posts?page=91#91
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=109#109
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=17#17
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602230/posts?page=73#73
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=223#223
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=173#173
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=172#172
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=168#168
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=166#166
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=164#164
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=155#155
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=138#138
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1597207/posts?page=116#116

[js1138]

That's approximate date I had in mind, js1138. 1725 is considered to be in "modern times."

So the modern use of the word is approximately as old as its object. Astronomy is a bit older, but experimental science as an institution is not much older. Certainly there were no university degrees in physical science prior to this.

[js1138]

I got the Norman Prime.

[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks for listing those posts of editors...I just read one post, the one marked post #166, and there he does state, in bold letters, that "Western medicine is unable to cure anything"...The post marked as #168, was a direct reply, to actually me, when I questioned him about my having my appendix removed in my post #163 on the same thread...

It does seem from these posts that editor does not have any high regard for modern medicine....

[Right Wing Professor]

Or sanity. He's a food-faddist.

Creationism and new-ageism seem to be strongly correlated.

[Junior]

The scary thing is, there are some people who will read those and forego (or worse, keep their children away from) direly-needed medical care.

On the plus side, in this day and age, that meme is inherently self-removing...

[js1138]

Nah, it just produces a sub-population of relatively sturdy, stupid people.

[Thatcherite]

I asked him if Western soldiers on duty in Iraq should have field hospitals offering the best care modern medicine can summon up for those injured in battle?

Or should we bring the field hospitals home and rely on the power of prayer and God's manifest will for our brave fighting men's welfare?

He never did answer.

[LibertarianSchmoe]

And isn't it remarkable, on a thread about an article entitled "Scientific Illiteracy and the Partisan Takeover of Biology" that so many living illustrations of the problem present themselves!

Quite amusing to those of us who know what the term "illiteracy" means!

[balrog666]

I say you are proof that some people have no shame whatsoever, and will attach their names to the most dishonest claims in order to further their fantasies.

An excellent description but I would have tried to place "puerile" and "bizarre" in there somewhere.

[balrog666]

The lurkers can plainly see that it was not I who made a claim I was unwilling to back up. They're all not as dumb as you are. :)

Did I miss something? Why have you stopped calling the crapping cur by his previous Freeper name, "Mordo"?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Did I miss something? Why have you stopped calling the crapping cur by his previous Freeper name, "Mordo"?"

He's pretending that he has no idea what I am saying when I do that. It just dawned on him that I have been calling him Mordo for months now. He's quite a character!

[LibertarianSchmoe]

And there is NO WAY you support evolution. That's just silly for you to even pretend

Perhaps wintertime supports TaxRelief's definition of the Theory of Evolution. You know, the one that goes "".

[Thatcherite]

I am reminded of another frequent crevo debate poster. The one who claims to be an atheist, but who appears to despise atheism and whose arguments consist of a row of creationist talking-points.

[LibertarianSchmoe]

Isn't there some kind of commandment prohibiting "bearing false witness" or some such? Ah, but then, "commandment" is too broad a term to teach to CRIDers.

[Doctor Stochastic]

But for some, the practice of Taqqiya keeps the spirit of The Law.