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Posted on 04/04/2006 2:17:28 PM PDT by Eaglewatcher
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To: Shalom Israel
"... You believe in their fundamental right to pass laws ..."
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Yup - sure do. Why don't you try reading the US Constitution sometime???
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posted on
04/08/2006 4:01:00 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: wgflyer
You8've got it absolutely right!! good for you!
382
posted on
04/08/2006 4:02:54 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: pigdog
Likewise the NRST contains a "prebate" which will make people like Kellis's sister not notice the tax that much anyway. And I agree with others who've pointed out that there will be constant political pressure to increase it.
383
posted on
04/08/2006 4:05:19 PM PDT
by
inquest
(If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
To: Always Right
Not taxing education is not an "exemption" Rightie. It is considered an nvestment and therefore not taxed.
And the FairTax rate is not increased automatically. In fact, if anything it may go down as the tax base greatly expands.
384
posted on
04/08/2006 4:07:21 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: GSlob
Silly you. You're taxed the second time anyway. Better without the IRS. Bye.
385
posted on
04/08/2006 5:08:26 PM PDT
by
wgflyer
(Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
To: eskimo
"No one I know believes that either."
If you're suggesting that we FairTaxers believe in some form of benevolence ever coming out of the crooks we call congress, well, far from it. The point, I suppose, is to try and neuter them. When people actually understand the FairTax it is hard not to approve of it. I call it a raising of standards...a step toward freedom of the citizen from big government.
You can use the argument that "it'll never happen", or "you'll never get the government monkey off your back", and you might be right. But, to me, the FairTax is a lofty goal to have. You could say, "We'll never eradicate murder, or corruption, or illegal aliens, ad infinitum", but to stop trying is to give up and consign oneself to a lowered standard of living, a lowered quality of life and, really, the end of the great experiment that was America. My goals include a 100 percent crime free homeland, a 100 percent small government homeland, a 100 percent illegal alien free homeland, wealth, prosperity and a great quality of life. While I may never achieve these things, to have a goal of less is to accept much, much less. Whatever sins government might visit upon us after enactment of the FairTax will be visited upon us with the current system, in spades. You must remember that the FairTax doesn't eradicate corruption. We must do that ourselves. Whatever system you choose, good luck to you. I choose the FairTax.
386
posted on
04/08/2006 5:19:58 PM PDT
by
wgflyer
(Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
To: pigdog
387
posted on
04/08/2006 5:25:59 PM PDT
by
wgflyer
(Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
To: Badray
More willful blindness. Not at all I still see fine and I've enough experience to trust that when I do not like what I see that there is definitely something wrong.
388
posted on
04/08/2006 5:32:06 PM PDT
by
eskimo
(Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
To: wgflyer
When people actually understand the FairTax it is hard not to approve of it. Sorry, I have not found that to be so.
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posted on
04/08/2006 5:35:23 PM PDT
by
eskimo
(Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
To: pigdog
if anything it may go down as the tax base greatly expands.
The Fairtax tax base already taxes everything new, what's it going to expand to, taxing everything used, taxing income?
390
posted on
04/08/2006 5:42:32 PM PDT
by
lewislynn
(Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
To: pigdog
Nothing that could be devised under the FairTax in the way of some black market goods operation - NOTHING!!! - would even come close under the FairTax. I'm not certain that makes sense to me but I think my reply would be that I do not believe what I think you are trying to say is at all accurate.
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posted on
04/08/2006 5:46:50 PM PDT
by
eskimo
(Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
To: lewislynn
pigdog: And the FairTax rate is not increased automatically. In fact, if anything it may go down as the tax base greatly expands.384
The Fairtax tax base already taxes everything new, what's it going to expand to, taxing everything used, taxing income?
The tax base is people and you know that. It figures you'd deceptively switch the tax base -- people -- into new/used products being the tax base. Lewislynn, you're dishonest to the bone.
392
posted on
04/08/2006 6:04:33 PM PDT
by
Zon
(Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
To: Zon
The tax base is people and you know that.
LOL!
No it isn't. Tax base is WHAT is taxed not WHO is taxed.
393
posted on
04/08/2006 6:10:57 PM PDT
by
lewislynn
(Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
To: lewislynn
You certainly know better than that Looey, having been set straight on it several times.
394
posted on
04/08/2006 6:13:21 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: pigdog
395
posted on
04/08/2006 6:13:35 PM PDT
by
Badray
To: eskimo
IOW, you think that in view of the 25% the IRS views as taxes not collected (not illegal income or evasion) and with over 21 million illegal aliens paying no income tax that there is some scheme under the FairTax that would exceed that total amount???? What might it be pray tell???
396
posted on
04/08/2006 6:15:48 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: pigdog
having been set straight on it several times.
Set me straight again. What is the
income tax base, income, or taxpayers?
397
posted on
04/08/2006 6:19:04 PM PDT
by
lewislynn
(Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
To: Shalom Israel
The argument is not whether various spending programs and whether or not the are copnstitutional. It would probably surp[rise you to know that many who support the FairTax also believe that spending is out of control and must be reduced.
Bringing the FairTax into play as our tax system is just a start.
But you still haven't identified who your "pay no taxes" guru might be. John Kotmair perhaps??? Bob Schulz??
398
posted on
04/08/2006 6:22:18 PM PDT
by
pigdog
To: eskimo
Ignorance -- not understanding -- is causing your blindness.
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posted on
04/08/2006 6:24:46 PM PDT
by
Badray
To: Shalom Israel
Well, no,. actually you might as well just zip your lip since most of the stuff you post is right out of the Tax Protesters Handbook.
It makes no sense in the real world.
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posted on
04/08/2006 6:25:32 PM PDT
by
pigdog
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