Rethinking The Drug War (John Stossel Hits Home Run In Argument Against Futile WOD Alert)

Townhall.com ^ | 03/29/06 | John Stossel

[Zon]

Cult-think is different than group-think?

Generally they're similar. Specifically there are differences. Neo-Tech, and more pointedly neothink are the opposite of group-think and especially cult-think. Champions of the status quo default to cult-think. Whereas go-along-to-get-along default to groupthink.

[mugs99]

Attorney Generals derive their powers from the Commerce Clause

I see you have a reading comprehension problem. Hookit on foniks didn't work for you?
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[davesdude]

Besides, there is very little 'natural' growth to pot plants, for example

taht's why legalized and controlled by a governmental institution or like in amsterdam, by third partys, a more natural growth is achievable..."chenically grown plants" is very tasteful, not a desired taste though, so easily recognizable, believe after those year of experiement i went through...i grew my own once also, and the level of it's potency was quite satisfying :D but all organicaly grown...


Mushrooms are powerful hallucinogens; I see nothing 'soft' about them.

soft as they do not create any addiction, and though, you take it only once in a while, also like it's a natural poison, but still no death of a poisonning from psylocibin in the charts... i've known onlyu one person who abused of these and he found out within a week why it was not good to abuse of this substance...

Without a doubt, skillful attorneys representing cocaine cartels, for example, would use 'soft' legalization as a wedge to force the door on their particular product

i meant keeping the soft drug legal and hard drugs illegal...that way cocaine would still remain illegal without a chance to be fully legalized, no matter what people won't vote for this illegal drug to becaome legal...

Legalizing mind-altering drugs weakens a society,

In what sens you wrote Weaken??? I still don't see how amsterdam is so weak? also i admit that not enforcing the laws against illegal drugs is weakening our society...but legalizing taxing regulating legal drugs are totally different than just not enforcing a law...My point is i don't want to see grugs legalised so i can get my hands on, i want to them disapear, but we still don't understand the sub cultur of the drug world, and in order to win a war you must understand your foe, the ennemy in front of you, so legalizing some drugs lil by lil will and regulating and making further studies with people who do not fear repercussion will lead to a world frug free in maybe less than 100 years as we will understand (we as in the "officials") the complete phenomenon...

that seeking chemically induced self-delusion

delusion, isn't that a lil too subjective or speculative...too much of a stereo type. it's fortunately not everyone seeking truth drug, especially when the drug user is well informed about what he is using....i have tried a certain number of drugs and like yoiu i wont make a laundry list out of it... but i have kept myself informed about what i was about to take, speaken with recreational user, abuser of each drug... now i do not take anything not even the legal drugs because with the plants-drug i have found a certain faith again (long story)

of course not every body should find faith through drugs and all that but if we could find a way to responsibilize the users, it would definately be more benificial for a society...

[robertpaulsen]

Ah. Now I see why you insisted that the Pursuit of Happiness be included.

Only one problem. The U.S. Constitution does not protect the Pursuit of Happiness. It does prohibit denying someone due process prior to denying them "life, liberty or property", but that's not really the same thing, now is it?

[mugs99]

The U.S. Constitution does not protect the Pursuit of Happiness.

Life and Liberty do not appear in the Constitution either.
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[robertpaulsen]

"Life and Liberty do not appear in the Constitution either."

What is this? Some little tongue-in-cheek, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, let's waste robertpaulsen's time with a stupid technicality?

The amendments are part of the constitution. Unless you deny that, then Life, Liberty, and Property appear twice in the U.S. Constitution.

Guess what's nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution?

[mugs99]

To be exact, life, liberty and property are in the Bill of Rights. A right does not have to be defined in the Bill of Rights to be a right. Without the Pursuit of Happiness, there can be no marriage.

The United States Supreme Court, in recognizing that marriage is a fundamental right, stated that "the freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness." Loving v. Virginia.

If you deny a pothead the right to smoke pot, you can also deny the people the right to marry. Both are covered under the Pursuit of Happiness.
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[mugs99]

let's waste robertpaulsen's time with a stupid technicality?
LOL!
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[robertpaulsen]

Can I deny a homosexual his right to life without due process?

Can I deny a homosexual his right to marry without due process?

I rest my case. Pursue your happiness some other way.

[Mojave]

neothink are the opposite of group-think

You forgot the theme music.

[Mojave]

Attorney Generals derive their powers from the Commerce Clause

No, they don't.

[Zon]

Could you possible be anymore infantile?

[Mojave]

If I joined the "neothinking" cult.

[Zon]

Again you prove how infantile you are. Neo-Tech is the opposite of a cult and you think if you say otherwise often enough it will become true -- repeating a lie never makes it anything but a lie.

Cult-thinking is maintaining the status quo. Group thinking is going-along-to-get-along. You often demonstrated all three over the years. The third being infantilism.

[Mojave]

Neo-Tech is the opposite of a cult.

That's the opposite of the truth.

[Zon]

More of your infantilism. Roscoe, where does it end?

[Mojave]

where does it end?

Perhaps you could get help. Good luck.

[Zon]

Ending Lawyer-Like Dishonesties #4

Let's Call Neo-Tech a Cult

Perhaps the most-obvious, lawyer-like dishonesty archived throughout Internet search engines is the assertion that Neo-Tech is a cult. Neo-Tech is not only the antithesis of cults, but is the tool that vanishes them. ...Neo-Tech is based on wide-scope accountability and fully integrated honesty, while cults are based on narrow-scope restrictions and manipulated deceptions. Consider the following dozen contrasts between Neo-Tech and cults:

1. Neo-Tech has no members or leaders. Cults exist through members and leaders.
2. Neo-Tech requires crossing boundaries to generate ever expanding knowledge. Cults prohibit crossing boundaries to protect ever stagnant dogmas.
3. Neo-Tech generates open-ended wealth for individuals and society. Cults dissipate wealth earned by others and society.
4. Neo-Tech is anchored in factual reality. Cults float in imagined mysticisms.
5. Neo-Tech holds the individual self and natural law -- one's own self and objective law -- as the only authorities to guide man's life. Neo-Tech (1) posits self-responsibility as a primary of conscious life and (2) rejects the concepts of political-agenda "laws", collectivist "leaders", and external "authorities". With Neo-Tech, conscious beings become self-leaders, allowing no outside "authority" to rule their lives. By contrast, cult members demand that their leader and his group-agenda "laws" rule their lives.
6. Neo-Tech seeks out its errors in order to correct them. Cults evade their errors in order to propagate them.
7. Neo-Tech yields productive interactions with others and life. Cults demand harmful withdrawals from nonmembers and life.
8. Many people avoid or attack Neo-Tech because its integrated honesty exposes their own irrationalities and destructiveness. Cultists avoid or attack society because the real world exposes their cult's irrationalities and destructiveness.
9. Neo-Tech brings growth, prosperity, and life to individuals. Cults bring restrictions, stagnation, and death to individuals.
10. Neo-Tech spreads social benefits through integrated honesty and competitive business. Cults spread social harms by manipulating their victims through dishonesty and frauds.
11. Neo-Tech propagates individual freedom. Cults propagate group oppression.
12. Neo-Tech will prevail in the 21st century. Cults will vanish in the 21st century.

Ending Lawyer-Like Dishonesties

[Mojave]

Neo-Tech generates open-ended wealth for individuals and society.

Selling cult pamphlets.

[Zon]

You Lawyer-Like Dishonesties are infantile.