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Creationism to be taught on GCSE science syllabus (you can't keep a good idea down)
The Times of London ^ | 10 March 2006 | Tony Halpin

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by Greg o the Navy

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To: From many - one.

thanks. I hope it shall inspire some thought among certain parties.


81 posted on 03/10/2006 5:51:47 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: metmom
science is restricting itself too much in an attempt to keep ANY *non-natural* explanation out of the picture

And for good reason Science does this. It used to be thought that everything bad that happens to us, from illness to earthquakes to lightning strikes was the hand of God. Science has shown there are reasons why these things happen and how to predict them and how to save people from them. If Science used "God is the answer" every time they could not answer a problem, Science would never have advanced enough for us to be talking over the computer to each other.

83 posted on 03/10/2006 6:42:08 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Syncretic

Lefty pacifists don't want to pay for the military. You should really stop threatening them with confiscation of their property and/or imprisonment if they refuse to support the miltary by paying their taxes. Otherwise, you're just another hypocrite who thinks he's being singled out to be the only one in society to pay for something he disagrees with. When in fact everybody - every single person - is in that same boat. You're not a martyr for it.


84 posted on 03/10/2006 6:44:42 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Let us remember always Moderator-compliant FreepSpeak.
85 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:32 AM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: microgood
True. But just assume for a minute we were designed by a higher power. In that case, no matter what science comes up with will be wrong, since they do not allow for that possibility. It will be science. But it will also be wrong

It only works if your assumption is correct. We could equally say quit trying to understand gravity... it is an "Intelligent hand" pushing you down. Or quit studying weather because it is an "intelligent weatherman" making the weather.

86 posted on 03/10/2006 6:47:33 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Talk about quote-mining! I'll go still further, it is an abominable lie. If you're going to propagate such a lie, give the link and let the people you're pinging see the actual comment.

As you wish.

Dave's words:

Congrats, fellow higher-evolved-monkies! You and I were MEANT to abuse little children! (If evolutionists had their way)
If this is the case, free Michael Jackson! (Who obviously failed to evolve fully)

87 posted on 03/10/2006 6:53:55 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Greg o the Navy

Which of the several hundred extant creation myths will they be mentioning?


88 posted on 03/10/2006 6:55:57 AM PST by aculeus
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To: LiteKeeper
Go study creationism before you make stupid remarks about it.

I have... and it isn't science. Science tries to explain nature without a "supernatural" content. So far... it has done a pretty good job of it. The computer you are reading this on is proof of that.

89 posted on 03/10/2006 7:02:15 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: ml1954
Check out Intelligent Falling

Wow I was just making it up. At some point... this will happen.

90 posted on 03/10/2006 7:04:47 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Right Wing Professor; DaveLoneRanger
DLR:

Congrats, fellow higher-evolved-monkies! You and I were MEANT to abuse little children! (If evolutionists had their way) If this is the case, free Michael Jackson! (Who obviously failed to evolve fully)
I see very little basis for calling your earlier characterization of this a perdition-bound untruth-speaking-instance. (Note moderator-compliant FreepSpeak.)

The only escape I see is that the speaker refers not to the theory of evolution but to everyone who accepts said theory as having a basis in reality. However, if the speaker does not intend to impugn said theory he apparently believes in a demographic miracle for which no evidence exists.

92 posted on 03/10/2006 7:08:03 AM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Syncretic
It becomes oppression when people are taxed for unnecessary projects from which they receive no benefit.

So here in the UK (the subject of the article at the head of this thread, which few seem to have either read or understood) you would join me in objecting to Mr. Blair's pet project of diverting public funds raised by taxation to private religious schools, chiefly Islamic, for teaching religious creationism in place of science?

Your support is appreciated.

93 posted on 03/10/2006 7:13:10 AM PST by ToryHeartland
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To: trashcanbred
Still, while many scientists felt *God was the answer* that didn't stop them from laying the groundwork for most of modern science. There is nothing contradictory between believing that God did it and searching for the causes behind things. There's no way that the belief that God did it is going to squelch scientific investigation. Christians aren't fatalists.

As a matter of fact it's interesting that the Enlightenment coincided with the Protestant Reformation. Where Christianity is the predominant belief system is where you find the greatest freedom, standard of living, education, and medical care.

94 posted on 03/10/2006 7:18:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ichneumon
What and when was the latest and greatest evolutionary change?
95 posted on 03/10/2006 7:21:29 AM PST by WKB
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To: Syncretic
Protecting the nation from invaders is a necessary expense.

That's what you say - obviously, they disagree with the extent and the nature of military spending. But you keep on threatening them anyway. Well, who are you?

Well, I'll tell you what you're not. You're not special. You're not a martyr. And you're not oppressed. Everybody pays for things they don't like, and everybody has the same two remedies - vote at the ballot box, or vote with your feet.

It becomes oppression when people are taxed for unnecessary projects from which they receive no benefit.

And of course, is we don't implement your personal definitions of "unnecessary" and "benefit", you're being oppressed, because in fact you getting anything less than 100% of what you want is itself a form of oppression. I have an eleven year old who thinks exactly the same way, so you'll excuse me if I don't waste too much time on this.

96 posted on 03/10/2006 7:30:44 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow

is = if


97 posted on 03/10/2006 7:31:48 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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Placemarker.
98 posted on 03/10/2006 7:33:55 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: aculeus
Which of the several hundred extant creation myths will they be mentioning?

Only Biblical literalism--because the curriculum addresses the historical context of the controversy; in the words of OCR, to help understand "why the opponents of Darwinism thought the way they did."

It's just not a current controversy over here.

99 posted on 03/10/2006 7:40:36 AM PST by ToryHeartland
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