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Military.com ^ | February 13, 2006 | Frank Gaffney

Posted on 02/19/2006 5:07:48 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow

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To: ozoneliar

It amazes how "true conservatives" all of the sudden become "experts" in shipping(ala hillary/schumer).


21 posted on 02/19/2006 5:28:06 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
What hillary/schumer or any other dumbocrat has to say about it is irrelevant to me (I don't listen to them and haven't heard what they have said). The whole idea is STUPID on its' face, both realistically and politically.
22 posted on 02/19/2006 5:28:24 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
"Whatever the explanation, the Nation can simply no longer afford to have the disposition of strategic assets -- including those that have a military or homeland security dimension -- determined by a Treasury-dominated panel whose deliberations and decisions are made in secret without congressional oversight."

I agree with Gaffney.

23 posted on 02/19/2006 5:28:25 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Pukin Dog

Good for you!! Just thought you might want to check out Gaffney's article...although I had seen him on Fox News today..so I knew he was unhappy about it.


24 posted on 02/19/2006 5:28:29 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Cicero

This whole episode needs to go under the heading of "What in the hell were these people thinking?"


25 posted on 02/19/2006 5:28:41 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Sweetjustusnow
The more I think about it the more it makes sense.
Who else would know the in's and out's of Arab terrorism more than another Arab ?
26 posted on 02/19/2006 5:30:36 PM PST by John Lenin (Rehab is for quitters)
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To: Reagan Man
We don't want Muslims and Arabs who hate the US to be running our docks and ports. Not now, not ever.

They aren't now, nor will they in the future. The big hillary/schumer lie being pushed is that DPWorld is "taking over" the ports, when they are not.

And for irony DPWorld will be operating one of many differently owned port container facilites in NJ with a Danish firm.

27 posted on 02/19/2006 5:30:50 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Here's objection from what will be characterized as "part of the tinfoil brigade."

Feb 18, 2006
Suing To Stop Arab Takeover Of Miami Port

(AP) WASHINGTON, DC ... In New York, families of some victims from the September 2001 terror attacks planned to criticize the deal during a press conference Sunday with Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer, a leading critic of the sale. Schumer said he is dubious any assurances can justify involvement by the United Arab Emirates in American ports.

Schumer and other critics have cited the UAE's history as an operational and financial base for the hijackers who carried out the attacks against New York and Washington.

"A lot of families are incensed by this, because you're talking about the safety of the country," said William Doyle, whose son Joseph died at the World Trade Center. ""We have a problem already in our ports because all of our containers aren't checked, but now they want to add this unknown? It's not right."

http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_049225905.html


Administration Hiding Key 9/11 Financial Documents
Sun, 09 Oct 2005
By Greg Szymanski
Republished from Arctic Beacon

And Doyle recalls when the jetliner hit the towers feeling like a bolt of lightning passed through his body, knowing his young son was in one of the worst possible places, working on the 101st floor at Cantor Fitzgerald in the North Tower. ...

Tragically, however, his son became one of the 658 Cantor employees who never made it out of the WTC. Tragically, like so many other family members who lost loved ones, Doyle has had to undergo "a living hell" in every aspect concerning the WTC attacks, from the emotional pain and scars of losing a son to the callous arrogance and outright lies from the Bush administration. ...

Besides his emotional ties to the victims and his efforts to make sure everybody he comes in contact with gets the needed psychological and emotional help, Doyle takes an active role as one of the thousands of plaintiffs involved in an active trillion dollar lawsuit filed against the alleged financial perpetrators of 9/11.

The ongoing suit, filed by the South Carolina firm of Motley Rice, is attempting to recover damages for the victims by uncovering the money trail behind 9/11, which eventually leads to the true perpetrators who caused the mass murder of approximately 3,000 people.

And Doyle said whats so strange about uncovering the truth about the financial trail is that the U.S. government has been the main obstacle, not foreign banks or governments.

There was a 28 page bi-partisan report released to the government, headed by Sen. Phil Gramm, which should tell us about who funded 9/11, said Doyle about information sought by attorneys from Motley Rice, one of the only law firms in the country able to afford to handle this massive civil suit, which has already cost the firm over 25 million in expenses.

This report has since been kept secret and classified by the Bush administration ever since they got their hands on it. Our lawyers have repeatedly asked for this information, but the administration will not release it. What are they hiding?

Recently, I sent letters to all the lawmakers on Capitol Hill, including the White House, demanding this information be released so we can get at the truth. After making a lot of noise, I finally heard from the White House press secretary, who released a statement that the information was now not classified but could not be released since it may jeopardize sources being investigated by the government. ...

I honestly dont believe the government story, said Doyle, adding everything about the official story and the follow-up investigation has not lived up to his or most all the other victims and survivors expectations. The 9/11 Commission report doesnt even begin to get at the truth. They ignored most of he family member's serious questions and failed to even incorporate the findings of the 28 page bipartisan report looking into the financial links to 9/11 as well as any solid information leading to names involved with insider trading stock profits and 9/11.

In fact, they didnt even include testimony made by William Rodriguez, the janitor who has solid evidence about explosions in the WTC basement and other vital testimony from witnesses who basically ripped into shreds the official government story. ...

He came to my door with documents saying he could prove the Mossad was involved with the hijackers through their association with them through flight schools, said Doyle about the man whose identity is being protected for his safety.

When he left the information, he tore a dollar bill in half, keeping half and giving me the other half, saying whoever I choose to give the information to must present the torn dollar bill. If this information checks out, it could provide another solid link to what really happened on 9/11.

Besides the suspicious man who came to his doorstep, Doyle said another story ignored by the 9/11 Commission and cover-up by the government involves the actions of terrorist ringleader, Muhammad Atta, the night before 9/11 when he stayed at the Comfort Inn in Portland Maine.

I know the 9/11 Commission took the testimony of the night manager at the Comfort Inn, but never included it in its final report, said Doyle. Also I know the FBI confiscated the hotels surveillance tapes, never making them public. The night manager insisted that there was a third person along with Atta and the other hijacker reported to be with him at the Portland airport. Supposedly this third person never boarded the plane, but for some reason no one wants to bother to find him. ...

Doyle, a former stockbroker, is outreach director for the WTC United Families Group and treasurer for the 9/11 Families Group.

Administration Hiding Key 9/11 Financial Documents


28 posted on 02/19/2006 5:33:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: rottndog
What hillary/schumer or any other dumbocrat has to say about it is irrelevant to me (I don't listen to them and haven't heard what they have said). The whole idea is STUPID on its' face, both realistically and politically.

Well where was your outrage when another foreign firm was operating US port container facilites. BTW, the Bush administartion had nothing to do with DPWorld's takeover of P&O. The P&O shareholders did, but I guess doing your own research is a bit much for you.

29 posted on 02/19/2006 5:34:53 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Peter King is also spearheading the move to shut the port deal.


30 posted on 02/19/2006 5:35:01 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Cboldt

One of my sons was supposed to be at the WTC that day for a breakfast meeting, for a presentation on interest rates. Fortunately he flew in very late the night before and got home so late he decided not to go.

But he's not suing anyone over it.


31 posted on 02/19/2006 5:37:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ozoneliar
Peter King is also spearheading the move to shut the port deal.

So? He also voted against impeachment.

32 posted on 02/19/2006 5:37:59 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

There are two possibilities...It's a good deal and the administration has done its usual poor job of communicating it, allowing its political enemies to control the story...Or, it's another Meiers-like fiasco.


33 posted on 02/19/2006 5:40:49 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: Dane

A slight difference, Dane, is that DP World is owned and run by a foreign GOVERNMENT.


34 posted on 02/19/2006 5:40:55 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Dane

I understand what you're saying. The previous owners naturally wanted to sell out to the highest bidders. But that doesn't mean that we had to approve it.

Frankly, I think our country has made a long-term mistake not doing a better job of developing a native merchant marine and domestic ports and shipbuilding. We've let the big unions cripple and kill our ports.

Not too many people remember the power of the Longshoreman's Union, because it has shrunk so much. But the ports suffered much as GM is suffering now because they made a devil's deal with the unions.


35 posted on 02/19/2006 5:41:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dane
Well where was your outrage when another foreign firm was operating US port container facilites

Um...Dane, you are aware that neither the Brits, nor the Dutch, were involved in the Islamazi attacks on America...right?

BTW, the Bush administartion had nothing to do with DPWorld's takeover of P&O. The P&O shareholders did, but I guess doing your own research is a bit much for you.

And you KEEP avoiding the fact that there ARE Bush appointees that are LINKED directly and/or Indirectly to DP World...

Like David Sandborn...and John Snow...

But like the good OBL shill you are, those links are irrelevant, but what about that Charlie Daniels song from 34 Years ago!

THAT'S an outrage!

36 posted on 02/19/2006 5:42:57 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Dane
You may as well save your energy, Dane.

Some of us have been trying to share the facts of this deal for 2 days now, and many have decided to make up their own minds based on the rantings of Micheal Savage, and an unfortunate mistake by Michelle Malkin. They don't care that they are misinformed. It just doesn't matter to them.

It is a stunning thing to watch how misinformation can get out of control, and how so many people will buy it hook, line and sinker if it matches up with their prevailing viewpoint.
37 posted on 02/19/2006 5:43:21 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Dane
So? He also voted against impeachment.

So? He voted against impeachment, he is an outspoken conservative. He was the one who said the media should be 'shot'.

38 posted on 02/19/2006 5:44:25 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: clintonh8r; Stellar Dendrite
There are two possibilities...It's a good deal and the administration has done its usual poor job of communicating it, allowing its political enemies to control the story...Or, it's another Meiers-like fiasco.

Take number 2..."Trust Me"!

39 posted on 02/19/2006 5:44:38 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Dane
You see?

You just went from Freeper to "OBL Shill" in the span of 15 minutes.

Just Amazing.
40 posted on 02/19/2006 5:46:14 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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