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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: atlaw

The Blather Blast.


361 posted on 02/13/2006 9:09:21 AM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: PatrickHenry
It's all a part of what we call post-Dover syndrome, which was easily foreseeable the day the brilliant opinion by Judge Jones came out. The symptoms are understandable -- denial, disorientation, anger, scapegoating, and finally ... an even more fervent commitment to creationism.

That might be what we've got here. I'm wondering if some of the more ludicrous, drunken streams of consciousness from creationists on this thread are for real though. DU fratboys trying to make conservatives look stupid?

I think this is the funniest argument against evolution we've seen yet...


362 posted on 02/13/2006 9:18:22 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: bvw

So, what's your excuse? Willful ignorance, superstitious brainwash, or charlatan exploitation?


363 posted on 02/13/2006 9:23:12 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Thatcherite
I've covered that in Micro-evolution, Macro-evolution, and Speciation:
Creationists -- at least those who venture into the domain of science -- steadfastly claim that evolution relies on never-occurring, single-generation, large-scale transitions from one species to another -- an imaginary phenomenon they call "macro-evolution" -- a fiction of their own devising which they correctly reject for lack of evidence. From this wobbly foundation, they go on to claim that because ducks never give birth to dogs, or monkeys to humans, that all of evolution is false.

It is not known why creationists consistently fail to comprehend that the gradual process of evolution requires only "micro-evolution" -- a well-observed, easily understood, undirected natural phenomenon which they claim to accept. Perhaps it's because gradual change via mutation and natural selection is too easy to understand, too natural, too obvious! Or perhaps it's because because they realize that a long series of small changes implies that the Earth is far older than they would prefer. They don't want to understand such an explanation. They prefer that the origin of species be an inexplicable mystery -- one which must have a supernatural cause. But in rejecting the fantasy of "macro-evolution" -- events that never happen and which are actually contrary to the process of evolution, creationists are saying nothing about the theory of evolution, only their own, self-imposed misunderstanding.


364 posted on 02/13/2006 9:23:13 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Havoc
My side is winning the debate with America.

Senator Santorum backed away from the ID side in the Dover case. If he thought the anti-evolution side had any political muscle, do you think he would have done so?

Santorum now critical of Dover case

"...Santorum said he was troubled by court testimony that showed some board members were motivated by religion in adopting the policy."

[snip]

"He said he intends to withdraw his affiliation with the Michigan-based public-interest law firm that promotes Christian values."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545613/posts

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Gov. Taft of Ohio must not think the anti-evolutionists have much clout either:

Taft adds to evolution debate

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I don't have the link handy right now, but the Dover school board members who pushed ID were soundly thrashed by candidates who promised to reverse the policy.

365 posted on 02/13/2006 9:23:45 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Havoc
Wasn't an evasion, it was called a joke.. You're not paying attention - you should get more involved. Perhaps humor escapes you?

I've presumed all along that your presence on the crevo threads had to be some kind of joke. Thank you for clarifying that!

366 posted on 02/13/2006 9:26:07 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: bvw
She has a hard time seeing virtue in those who disagree with her.

Are you and your buddy Hillary having a hard time seeing virtue in those who disagree with you?

367 posted on 02/13/2006 9:27:59 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Havoc
Found it.

Dover CARES sweeps election

Dover CARES swept the race for school board Tuesday defeating board members who supported the curriculum change being challenged in federal court.

After months of fierce campaigning that included some mudslinging from both sides, new members of the board are Bernadette Reinking, Rob McIlvaine, Bryan Rehm, Terry Emig, Patricia Dapp, Judy McIlvaine, Larry Gurreri and Phil Herman.

The challengers defeated James Cashman, Alan Bonsell, Sherrie Leber, Ed Rowand, Eric Riddle, Ron Short, Sheila Harkins and Dave Napierskie.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1518592/posts

368 posted on 02/13/2006 9:33:31 AM PST by Ken H
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
An animal giving birth to a different class of animal.

Are you saying you'd believe it was magic?

Would giving birth to a different species contradict it?

369 posted on 02/13/2006 9:34:08 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: longshadow
I don't think I've ever seen this many anti-evos drunk this early in the AM on a single CREVO thread in the history of FR.

Following that devastating article at the top of the thread, I'd guess they were finally driven to last gasp madness.

370 posted on 02/13/2006 9:35:10 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: VadeRetro

Yes, I understand. The liberals are allowed to be insulting. If we insult back we are nasty mean etc...


371 posted on 02/13/2006 9:35:33 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: nmh
I'd make sure my relationship was right with Him and start being honest about these ridiculous hypotheses of evolution

Do let us know when you've started being honest about ridiculous hypotheses of evolution. First you'll need to learn about the theory of evolution though. Then you'll know enough to be able to laugh with us at the ridiculous evolution hypotheses that creationists hypothesise.

372 posted on 02/13/2006 9:35:37 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: PatrickHenry
It's all a part of what we call post-Dover syndrome,

I can imagine that must be particularly hard on them! LOL!!!

373 posted on 02/13/2006 9:36:23 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: tallhappy
Would giving birth to a different species contradict it?

Children are the same species as their parents (barring bizarre hybrids like ligers and tigons). If you think that the theory of evolution says otherwise then you haven't even reached first base of understanding the basics of the theory.

374 posted on 02/13/2006 9:37:44 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: tallhappy
Would giving birth to a different species contradict it?

Any fertile offspring is always the same species as the parents.

375 posted on 02/13/2006 9:43:18 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: tallhappy
"Liberals?" Are you being honest here? (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!) And are you sure "they" started it?
376 posted on 02/13/2006 9:51:00 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: CheyennePress

"They simply do not address what I think are some interesting proposals put forth by evolutionary biologists and creationists alike."

It's pretty obvious from reading the article that the writer did not attempt to gather any data except from evolutionist believers.


377 posted on 02/13/2006 9:59:23 AM PST by webstersII
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To: shuckmaster
So, what's your excuse? Willful ignorance, superstitious brainwash, or charlatan exploitation?

You left out gin, vodka, and Scotch.

378 posted on 02/13/2006 9:59:59 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: tallhappy
" Are you saying you'd believe it was magic?"

I'd believe it went against the foundations of what the TOE says (and modern genetics as well).

"Would giving birth to a different species contradict it?"

For an animal? Yes. Saltation has not been observed; it is not part of the TOE.
379 posted on 02/13/2006 10:08:36 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: cookcounty

"Everyone including IDers and even 6-day YECers, believes that evolution explains some, most, or all biological diversity. The difference is that "Big E" evolutionists are convinced that evolution alone can explain all biological diversity, and are consequently the dogmatists. They are the ones who regard dissent as heresy, and are fearful that people may have doubts."

Nice summary.

If the evolutionist believers would stick to calling a "fact" the biological diversity that can be presently tested then there would be no arguments about any of this. It's when they go on to insist that the TOE explains ALL biological diversity that there is a dispute.


380 posted on 02/13/2006 10:22:14 AM PST by webstersII
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