Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Woohoo!!
Whoopee!
Got it.
Got better things to do.
Lord bless you.
Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD
Luke 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
Malachi says Elijah himself, Luke says John has the spirit of and power of Elijah.
John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
John denies that he's Elijah.
Matt 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
John is prophet Elijah only if they accept the prophets and the law.
Matt 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
The disciples do not see John the Baptist, they see Elijah.
Matt 17:10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
17:12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.
John was the wilderness voice of Isaiah 40:3 , yet he was rejected and killed. With the spirit of Elijah, John had come announcing the "Kingdom of Heaven", but they wouldn't accept the prophets and the law. The way had not been prepared. Jesus was doomed also to be rejected and killed. He was not the Jewish Messiah.
the virgin
Young maiden; but Isaiah wasn't talking abut Jesus anyhow.
Just out of curiosity, who was David speaking of in Psalm 110, verse 1?
John was not rejected and killed. Many Jews followed him and were baptized by him. John was murdered by Herod Antipas, that fox, as Jesus called him. Many Jews were followers of John and Jesus, and the people laid psalms before His feet as He rode into Jerusalem, signifying their acceptance of Him.. The High Priest and the Pharisees were the ones who would not accept Jesus, for then their sweet little corrupt system would come down. It came down anyway.
You are proud to be naive about science yet you claim to know what science is or is not. Isn't that a bit arrogant?
The chemical process of evolution is that of DNA. If you know the chemical process that go into the of formation DNA then you know the chemical process at the heart of evolution. At its simplest, evolution is a change in the DNA that makes up a population.
Precisely. So, if you believe evolution is a chemical process that affects change upon DNA, -- then what is the formula? There must be a formula to express your belief/theory.
Spoon feeding the opposition. Interesting.
What has my character to do with the discussion?
"Arrogance" is the way you're attempting to frame the discussion.
Keep reading:
4:25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;
4:26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.
4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.
The Jewish Messianic prophesy is not based on mercy or pity. They have to be righteous within the law.
The Jews were not clean and rejected the law.
Elijah will come when the Israelis are under the law of Moses. And until Elijah returns, they will not have the Messiah.
A prayer to his grand40thson to crush his enemies.
Either that, or the Sacred Number of the Count of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch ...
Did he restore the nation for the Messiah?
Was John (the so-called Elijah) beheaded?
The High Priest and the Pharisees were the ones who would not accept Jesus, for then their sweet little corrupt system would come down.
The priestly class were the Sadducees.
The Pharisees were skeptical, but reasonably tolerant of the nascent Jewish-Christians until a certain Saul of Tarsus denied the law of Moses.
No, its the way you are framing your replies. You insist that science have a 'formula' yet you agree that your understanding of science is naive. How is it that your opinion of what is necessary for a field of study to be called science should supersede the understanding and practice of science by scientists?
Science has no need for a 'formula' nor is it as simplistic as to strive for a single 'formula' before it can make decisions on the facts it has access to.
My point is, perhaps you should learn a little more about that which you attack before make pronouncements about it.
John was beheaded, fulfilling the prophecy found re him in the Joseph story
And who says today, "I am not a widow?
Psalm 110
1 A psalm of David. 2 The LORD says to you, my lord: "Take your throne at my righthand, while I make your enemies your footstool."
2 The scepter of your sovereign might the LORD will extend from Zion. The LORD says: "Rule over your enemies!
3 Yours is princely power from the day of your birth. In holy splendor before the daystar, like the dew I begot you."
4 The LORD has sworn and will not waver: "Like Melchizedek you are a priest forever."
Hebrews 1
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had * by himself purged * our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool *.
No fake sins here. Your unapolagetic peddling of easily demonstrated dishonesties that purport to support your religious agenda is a matter of record on this thread. What I don't understand is why when you're in a hole you just keep digging.
Anyway, there is no shame in discussing philosophy or "theories" such as evolution. By your logic, you should be "ashamed" of promulgating something that you cannot prove but is just a nice little theory.
Nothing in science is ever proven. There is an avalanche of evidence that supports evolution which makes it as well-established a theory as any in science, and scientific knowledge has no status higher than "theory". You've had the difference between the word "theory" as scientists use it and as lay people use it (the scientific word for the lay use of theory is hypothesis or conjecture) explained to you before. So given your religious strictures about honesty it is a mystery to me why you perpetuate the error there yet again.
It's a free country still and definitely it's still Free Republic.
True, you are free to make an ass of yourself.
Look up all the posts about the disciples going to their deaths for what they knew, firsthand, to be true, as they were eyewitnesses to Jesus's life, death and resurrection. I have no idea what sort of dichotomy bondage you are trying to tie me up in. I've stated what I've stated plainly for days now -- it's a famous prooftext and you have only managed to nail me for alleged syntactical errors in relating it. I'm asking you to use your common sense to reason it out but you are looking at the letter of the law. In Christian circles, you would be excused for acting under a spirit of Legalism.
All of this carries no weight at all for someone who doesn't see the Bible as a historical text, just a collection of stories written well after the events they purport to describe by people who weren't there.
Lord bless and I'll come back to our discussion, shame-free, when I've more time.
Your continued shamelessness at the errors and dishonesties that you've perpetrated on these threads is no longer any surprise. I've seen it too many times before.
So when are you going to produce that information about pure gold being transparent that you promised. Or maybe a primary source for scientists telling Columbus that the world was flat? Or is that another of those things that you've just not got time for? Funny, that.
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