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What Are Creationists Afraid Of?
The New Individualist ^ | 1/2006 | Ed Hudgins

Posted on 01/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by jennyp

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To: Buggman

Then you can't possibly believe in ID.


701 posted on 01/27/2006 3:10:34 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; Dimensio; Luis Gonzalez; highball

Well, it's been fun, but Shabbat is upon us, and I'm off for more relaxing activity. Since most of you are just repeating objections that I already answered earlier in the thread (many in my first post), I see no reason to go on repeating myself. You can have the last word on this thread. Have a pleasant evening.


702 posted on 01/27/2006 3:11:39 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman

Politics had nothing to do with that.


703 posted on 01/27/2006 3:12:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Buggman
Have a pleasant evening.

FRegards,

704 posted on 01/27/2006 3:17:34 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: WildHorseCrash; P-Marlowe; connectthedots; blue-duncan

I said real meaning.

All atheists have is a localized, personal meaning that really makes no difference whatsoever. They might as well be Genghis Kahn or Jeffrey Dahmer. They're all ending up in the same place, anyway.

No meaning whatsoever.

Be good, be bad...no difference...you all die, melt, burn...and who gives a rat's as$...


705 posted on 01/27/2006 3:20:16 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Okay, I'll bite: Why not?


706 posted on 01/27/2006 3:21:23 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman
There is no law of chemistry which provides that random elements will come together to form living cells, your declaration of faith notwithstanding.

Your description is of abiogenesis, not evolution. Chemistry may do such a thing in the correct environment, but we don't know that. But evolution does use such chemistry, and is known from many different examples in the data to be true.

I'm sure you knew that. And I'm equally sure the lurkers could tell by your careful wording that you knew it as well.

708 posted on 01/27/2006 3:39:06 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Would you oppose the mere mention in class that evolution is not the only viable explanation of life?


709 posted on 01/27/2006 3:42:14 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: P-Marlowe
...the whole idea of abiogenesis appears to have been silently removed from the curriculum.

If it's been removed from the curriculum, it's because mouth-breathing creatard parents are more worried about having to deal with supposed threats to their fantasies than they are in actually educating their children. They elect lying dopes, like the Dover IDiots to do their dirty work.

710 posted on 01/27/2006 3:42:34 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: narby
Please actually read all of my posts before making an argument that I've already dealt with ad nauseum.
711 posted on 01/27/2006 3:44:07 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: RightWingAtheist

Applause ping


712 posted on 01/27/2006 3:59:54 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: sha2006
Science shouldn't be limited to naturalism.

If you are strangely implying that science should tackle the supernatural, you are very mistaken. And besides, if science ever did tackle the supernatural, methinks the religious folks among us who believe in world wide floods, a young earth, talking bushes, virgin births, giant races, and humans turning into salt... well, then I don't think they'd enjoy that so much.
713 posted on 01/27/2006 4:01:21 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: sha2006
And who are you materialist atheists to define what "science" is?

Scientists perhaps?

714 posted on 01/27/2006 4:01:50 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: xzins
I said real meaning.

And in doing so again you impose your subjective definition of "meaning," as if it is somehow objective and self evident. To the atheist, religious folks, especially clergy, have no "real" meaning in their lives, because they waste it by their devotion to an irrational end. You might as well spend all your waking hours repeatedly reciting "Mary had a little lamb" for all the meaning prayer and religion have, and therefore all the meaning a clerical life has.

All atheists have is a localized, personal meaning that really makes no difference whatsoever. They might as well be Genghis Kahn or Jeffrey Dahmer. They're all ending up in the same place, anyway.

LOL! All anyone has is a localized, personal meaning. You may adopt someone else's thoughts as your own, but you, like everyone who's ever lived, is in every way an individual and the meaning you ascribe to life is likewise individual.

And there are many, many reasons for a human being not to want to be a Genghis Kahn or Jeffrey Dahmer other than the fear of a petulant god.

No meaning whatsoever.

Only a different meaning than that which you objectively believe to be worthy. Again, to someone who thinks that faith is an odd and wasteful peculiarity, devoting your life to what they might describe as "invisible friends" and ancient "fairy tales" is not only unworthy of a thinking being, but sadly wasteful, in light of all of the concrete things you might otherwise have done.

Be good, be bad...no difference...you all die, melt, burn...and who gives a rat's as$...

If you think that there is no difference between being good and being bad, absent faith in a religion, you have some serious misunderstanding about what it is to be a human being. (And it is only the theist (or at least several kids of theist) who would fear melting and burning after death. You attributing it to the thoughts of the atheist is rather odd.)

715 posted on 01/27/2006 4:07:11 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: Buggman
Please actually read all of my posts before making an argument that I've already dealt with ad nauseum.

I'm responding to your post to me. I don't have the time, nor the inclination to read all you've posted. If you're responses to me are any indication, your other posts would likely be worthless.

718 posted on 01/27/2006 4:18:13 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: Buggman
The peppered-moths were glued to the trees to get the result the guy who did the experiments (can't remember his name off the top of my head and I don't have the time to look it up just now) wanted.

They were not glued to trees to get specific results, you liar.
719 posted on 01/27/2006 4:19:01 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: sha2006
If there is no God, then life has no meaning. Period.

Argument from consequences. Logical fallacy.
720 posted on 01/27/2006 4:19:32 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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