BISHOPS' PRESIDENT BLASTS 'SOUTH PARK' EPISODE LAMPOONING MARY (Disgusting!)

Catholic News Service ^ | 12/19/2005 | Staff

[nhoward14]

"Is South Park where the phrase "Let He who is without sin kick the first ass" came from?"


No. That is from the Family Guy "North by North Quahog" episode.

[singfreedom]

I must disagree with your analysis of the thread. It is OK to "dis" South Park provided you know what you are talking about. You may call the show any damn thing you like, however, when someone chooses to make the sweeping generalization that anyone who watches South Park is an imbecile, that is not just discussing the merits of the show.

You and I both know that FReepers are some of the more intelligent people in this country. How they spend their leisure time really shouldn't be an issue. Verbally bashing them and calling them names is more than just a little excessive.

Numerous FReepers have tried to explain to you and your friends that this episode did not defame the Virgin Mary, but the idiotic belief that pieces of toast, whatever, represent Mary. I'm certain her Sainted self would be most offended to know that her image has been reduced to a piece of toast.

[singfreedom]

You are wrong I have never seen Jesus fart on South Park. Now you can recall your, Game, Set, Match, BS!

[singfreedom]

No one has said "you shouldn't be offended by South Park, conversely, they have acknowledged, MANY of them, that it is offensive to many people. Quite simply, if it offends you don't watch. On the other hand, to be deemed an imbecile by SOME of those posting on this thread, could be considered a distinct compliment.

My religious teachers, and my parents, taught me that God is not particularly fond of smug, self-satisfied, self-righteous petitioners.

[singfreedom]

Whatever happened to "allowing others to have their beliefs without ridicule"?

[TheCrusader]

"My point is this -- South Park's whole shtick is that there are no sacred cows."

Well we're talking about the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God Incarnate, not cows. So South Park can "shtick" it where the sun don't shine. Being "fair and balanced" in their mockery of people's beliefs doesn't redeem their blaspheming of things that really are holy and sacred. They insult God by blaspheming His blessed Mother with sick, crude jokes, and people who call themselves "Christians" defend this sewage by pretending it's 'humor'. This country is losing both its mind and its soul.

The two oldest known images (frescos) venerating the Virgin Mary, found in the Priscilla Catacombs, Rome. They both date to the 2nd Century, with the first image being the older of the two.

Christians have been venerating the Blessed Virgin Mary from the earliest of Christian times. There are really no adequate words to describe the shocking attacks against the mother of Christ the King, she of whom He lovingly created from all time to bear His Son and bring Salvation into the world.

[churchillbuff]

I've clearly hit a nerve on this thread by pointing out that the low vulgarity of South Park is an example of the cultural destruction that is a legacy of the Sixties and the Leftist project of tearing down our society's traditional values and sustaining institutions. There are people on FR who would ordinarily rail against Sixties decadence - and they don't like being told that they're buying into it by applauding South Park and deriding its critics as "uptight."

Cultural destroyers of the Left have always used words like "prude" "holier than thou" and "uptight" to mock conservatives who were trying to defend religion, traditional values, family and the idea of objective moral norms. It's sad that the rhetoric of the cultural Left is now unthinkingly deployed by some freepers against cultural conservatives. It shows how dim those particular freepers are - and how successful Hollywood's leftists have been in tearing down the culture and making it "fashionable" to mock the old verities.

[singfreedom]

OH MY GOD, now that is a nightmare brought to life!!!!

[gondramB]

"Your ignorance and disputation of the truth is a relatively recent exercise in the history of Christianity, Helvidius and a few others notwithstanding. The protestant "heroes" Luther, Calvin and Zwingli; often touted in the religion threads here as the ones who "got it right", amongst many others, categorically reject your attempt at revisionism. They all belived in and taught that the Blessed Virgin Mary gave birth to a single child, Jesus Christ, and remained a perpetual virgin."

Do you know how they explained Mark 6:3?

"Is he not the carpenter, 3 the son of Mary, and the brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him."

Or Mathew 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?"

[gondramB]

"It's sad that the rhetoric of the cultural Left is now unthinkingly deployed by some freepers against cultural conservatives."

I was offended by this particular episode and a I never criticize people for not liking the same things I like. But there is an undercurrent here suggesting that Southpark should not be allowed in it's current form and that I find troubling. I find censorship to be quite different from the founders vision... also, from a practical point of view it almost never actually does any good.

[gondramB]

"For people arguing no one should be offended at South Park to be offended by simply being called imbecile is the height of irony."


Has anybody actually said that? You're entitled to be offended at whatever you choose to let offend you. i took the "imbecile" comment to be more a reflection of not knowing what the person was talking about rather than something that should upset me.

[churchillbuff]

"My point is this -- South Park's whole shtick is that there are no sacred cows.""""

A civilization is in a sad, and downward-sliding state, when there is nothing, no value or belief or moral principle, that is shown respect and considered sacred.

They have a name for societies where "nothing is sacred" -- barbarism.

The late Roman Empire is the classic example. We've got a lot of freepers who cheer at the modern equivalents of the old bread and circuses. They have no taste, no respect for any morals, religion, traditions or principle, and - perhaps most devastatingly - no class. All of those deficiencies are necessary for somebody to praise raunch like South Park.

[churchillbuff]

an undercurrent here suggesting that Southpark should not be allowed in it's current form """

I never said that - I would only hope that self-styled "conservatives" would be calling it what it is - degenerate rot, and a sign that the Sixties revolution of mainstreaming vulgarity and obscenity has succeeded.

In fact, South PArk would NOT have been allowed on the air before the Sixties revolution did its destructive work on our culture. If you think any network would have aired this trash during the Eisenhower years - or that the Eisenhower administration would have allowed it - you're wrong.

[singfreedom]

Sorry, sir, I must respectfully disagree. There are times the Lord tasks all of us. He knows our strengths and sometimes accomplishes his work through us----whoever we may be, as long as we're true believers.

[balch3]

Alot of us are very right wing...just not particularly conservative in the way YOU would define it....oh, and we have a sense of humour.

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Or you could just go ahead and admit to being a liberal. There are a lot of people claiming to be conservative on this site, but they out themselves and show their true leftist colors on threads like this. You also find them on Intelligent Design threads, rabidly defending Darwinism. Liberal is as Liberal does.

[churchillbuff]

The Sixties-inspired vulgarity of South Park reminds me of the similar Sixties-inspired "irreverence" of the Clintons, who sniggered, South Park-style, as they defiled a Christmas tree with condoms as ornaments. It's all the same - mocking traditional values, and branding people who object as "holier than thou" and "uptight" (to use Howlin's insults, words that come straight out of the drug culture and the Leftist fever swamps of the Sixties). Deriding, sneering and laughing at things that society has traditionally held sacred - like Christmas trees (in the case of the Clintons) or the Virgin Mary (in the case of South Park) is a sign of degeneracy. People who applaud degeneracy - and who stick out their tongues at those of us who defend the Virgin Mary and the values being assaulted by degenerate Hollywood - are allies of the Left and its project of cultural destruction.

A society where nothing gets respect - where nothing is sacred - is a society headed downhill. It's a society that has rejected the idea of objective right and wrong. Bill Clinton, the ultimate Sixties guy, did his work well. He even has a lot of freepers buying his line that we can't make judgments about things - that anything goes.

[balch3]

It's vile, disgusting, obscene, and blasphemous. Are those conservative values?

[balch3]

Ditto!

[churchillbuff]

More than anything else, mocking people's religion is classless. And laughing at such mockery is the sign of an oafish classlessness too. As Dennis Prager has said, we live in an Age of Stupidity, where dumbness and vulgarity are treated as inspired culture. The South Park groupies on this thread show how widely this rot of stupidity has spread.