Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

[Baraonda]

Sorry about the double post.

[Dimensio]

Did you read just upthread where I make the statement that this issue is NOT about science?

You only say that it isn't about science because you claim that evolution isn't science. But then when asked to explain why evolution isn't science, you lied about what evolution is.

[RunningWolf]

But the key is demented my dear, the key is you never demonstrate anything at all other than your inner workings LOL.

You bring ZERO science for your case of evo-cosmo cosmo-evo cult of of the flying spaghetti monster. Your case for evo is as real as the FSM... NOT



Oh yeh dimi baby, FSM fits you like a glove.

Wolf

[MHalblaub]

"The huge canyons, some hundreds of feet deep and in solid rock, around Mount Saint Helens were made in a matter of days. "

My chief was this year at Mount Saint Helens. He showed us pictures of these canyons and told us that they are just build out of dust and mud.

"While probably not in half an hour, it is possible for the Grand Canyon to be formed fast."

You can form something like the Grand Canyon in less time. But you can't make rocks and stones in less time out of mud except you are Thor.

[He Rides A White Horse]

I'm a veteran, a theist (if of the nonreligious philosophical variety), and a classical-liberal conservative.

You're a looney.

There you go again.....yet another Libertarian claiming the mantle of the Founding Fathers of this country. When everybody knows those who forged this country were Christians.

I've been to your 'classic-liberal' Libertarian website. Open borders, pro-homosexual, pro-abortion; the only consistent thing you fight for is the legalization of any drug you can get your hands on.

....ever putting forth the myth that the men who fought in the American Revolution were super-patriot Libertarians.

I'm sure George Washington and others like him would agree 100% with the platform of your 'party'. All three members of it.

You and your Libertarian friends are nothing but liars and thieves, claiming the blood and sacrifice of others as your own.

[He Rides A White Horse]

The day you stop dishonestly pretending that the theory of evolution is a "war on Christians" is the day you will stop sounding like a raving lunatic with absolutely no grasp on reality.

It goes hand in hand with every other false and demonic doctrine you try endlessly to force upon us. It is an effort on your part to eliminate the very people who built this society. Raving lunatic? I've talked to plenty of Christians, and I don't mean the David Koresh types either, although I'm sure that's what you would like to believe. They invariably think civil war is inevitable with you and your friends. Of course no timetable is set for such a conflict, as that is entirely dependent on you. When you push too hard for the last time, you'll know when it's starting.....and you'll only have yourselves to blame.

The Bible is replete with examples of God commanding the Israelites to purge their nation when wicked influences became too much to bear.....and so it shall be with you.

[He Rides A White Horse]

The issue is culture and preservation. It is about the longing for freedom and a people's determination to live in a society that expresses the deepest deires of their souls. The issue is not just political, social or cultural. It is also about the survival of a culture and its people to aim high and upward to a higher self - a path to the stars. That path begins with truth and the battle will determine whether Christian heritage will survive or be driven to extinction.

Faced with obliteration, Christians will fight back.

We will fight back, and we will not be obliterated. The Christian heritage will survive; it has for the last 2000 years despite the efforts of people like Stultis, Dimensio, Oztrich Boy and the rest. They will be vanquished, and perhaps God will find favor with us again after they are driven out.

[Oztrich Boy]

They will be vanquished, and perhaps God will find favor with us again after they are driven out.

Osama? Some people think you are dead.

[He Rides A White Horse]

This conflict goes well beyond creationism, and they know it. Although on this very thread they'll deny it, being the chronic liars they are.

I'll reiterate some points about them again just in case they haven't gotten it yet.

1) These people would have you believe that they carry the mantle of those that framed the Constitution. The promulgate the belief that these people were Libertarians and secular humanists. Lies, all of it.

2) It is pointless to debate evolution vs. creationism with them, as they are liars to begin with

3) They are hardheaded, and think that the growing segment of Christians who realize that were headed for armed conflict with them are Tim McVeigh or David Koresh types. Let them believe that; I always liked the element of surprise.

4) Their beliefs are more identifiable with the virulent leftists who emerged from the 60s, not with the Christian patriots who emerged in the late 1700's.

5) Whether they believe in God is irrelevant; their doctrines and beliefs have been a curse upon our nation; the time is coming when we will have to drive them out. It will be our duty.

6) Again, they know the debate regarding creationism vs evolution is part of a much larger agenda, despite their constant lying. Eighty-five percent of this country believes in God, and these 15% think they will impose their secular tyranny upon us; it is they who are dreaming.

7) Much like their totalitarian brethren, they seek to force their secular beliefs upon us by twisting the Constitution to suit their agaenda (the 1st amendment in particular).

8)These people are those who think they have a right to take your 14 year old daughter for an abortion, without notifying parents. They have no concept of parental rights; despite their protestations, they believe that the State supercedes the rights and beliefs of individuals. They use every flunky available to wage war upon us, whether it be the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, Nambla, GLSEN, left wing teachers, academia, and last but certainly not least, liberal activist judges who usurp the legislative branch and issue decrees, regardless of what the people want. It is a tyranny of a minority

9)Stultis and his friends thinks I'm locked up in some 'compound' somewhere, as he sneeringly puts it; yet he belongs to a party that can't even muster more than a few hundred thousand voters (being generous here)......yet as I've stated 85% of people state they believe in God.....and just who inhabits a compound. Too funny for words.

10) They hate us, just as Oztrich Boy admits; he says I would rather be a pig than a creationist, Patrick Henry thinks creationism is a cancer on society......and these types would accuse us of agitating for war. There is no doubt in my mind that we are locked in a life or death struggle with these vermin, their goal is our destruction, and they know it. Unfortunately for them, more and more of us know it also.

11) War is a last resort, but we will come to the last resort at some time; because they never give up.....as stated in 10, it is they who have embarked on the path of destroying us. It is their endgame, nothing short wil satisfy them.

12) While war is undesirable, it is sometimes necessary; Jesus Himself ate with a soldier. The soldier's lot is not an evil one, so long as the cause is righteous. Ecclesiastes itself proposes that their is a time and place for everything under the sun, and that includes war and peace.

13) Let these arrogant tyrants think that it is only a few 'loonies' opposing them; they are so dismissive of others that anybody who disagrees with them must be 'crazy'. Their hardheadedness will be their undoing; they claim to be people of vision, yet it is obvious to me that they are blind men stumbling around in the dark.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Osama? Some people think you are dead.

It is because of people like yourself that Osama and others exist; he himself has stated that America is weak and decadent. The reason he believes this is because of the policies and agendas inflicted on this nation by you and your friends. Indeed, the enemies of the United States often speak of how weak we have become, and by virtue of this attack us.

It is you and others like you who have given heart to our enemies; it is you and others like you who have led our nation on a path to decay.

Osama belongs to you, not us.

[Stultis]

I've been to your 'classic-liberal' Libertarian website.

I'm not a (capital "L") Libertarian. I'm a partisan Republican more or less of the "neoconservative" variety. I have no use whatsoever for the Libertarian Party. I merely said that I'm (small "l") libertarian when it comes to matters of culture. I like that different groups and individuals(including conservative Christians) assert and express their own outlooks, and sometimes robustly criticize each other.

Hey, but don't let the facts intefere with your rants. They haven't yet.

[Stultis]

7) Much like their totalitarian brethren

Do you even know what the word means? It refers to ideological "totalism": The notion that a society and CULTURE must be based on one, and only one, particular set of ideas. HINT: Real totalitarians often fantasize about going to war with their society, as you do, and suppressing or driving out those who disagree with their cultural, political or religious ideology, as you do.

[RunningWolf]

service jet fighters for the cold war

Well thats plenty. The point of the spear is just a piece of flint without the body. We were ready to thats the point.

I was crew chief on Cobras and Hueys, but in that Cav unit you could get into lots of stuff out in the field and we were out int the field 4 months or more each year.

I rode front seat in the Cobra on maint test flights doing hammerheads and simulated missile runs.

Got some stick time in the Huey, Put Hueys thru performance test flights where you keep climbing till the bleed bands pop at 25,000 ft.

And of course shot thousands of rounds out of M16, door mounted M60's and tripod mount 50 cals.

Wolf

[sully777]

This is why we live in the greatest country on earth. Theocrasy is not allowed. The darker side of social darwinism is checked.

The Constitution keeps things comfortable for us heretics and non-conformists.

[Stultis]

Closest I ever got to warfare was Red Flag excercises at Nellis. I was on the flightline in the summer with a zillion screaming jet engines all day, and on the Vegas strip all night, so it's kinda a blur. My unit, 1st Tactile Fighters (F-15s) was RDF for the Middle East, but only went over a couple times while I was in. Once for excercises with the Jordanian AF, and once to Sudan when threatened with invasion by Libya.

I worked on radios, jammers and nav.

[b_sharp]

Facts that dissolve into theory? You do know how a theory is developed don't you?

[Baraonda]

Excellent.

Couldn't have said it better myself, and didn't.

Your post has reinforced my convictions and, hopefully, it has done the same for the lurkers.

God bless us all and Merry Christmas.

[b_sharp]

You really are a hoot. I haven't been this entertained for quite a while.

[b_sharp]

Bwaahhaaaahhhaaaa... Poor baby.

[b_sharp]

"I personally don't have a problem with your beliefs regarding Christ.

"I was replying to someone else.

You were indeed. I responded because your generalization addressed all atheists, which of course includes me. I'm happy to see you qualify that statement.