Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

[Baraonda]

"I'm sure there's a good place in a refereed journal for you if you can make a good case. Till then...."

And I will.

Till then...

It's 2:00 am here and I must go to rest.

[Dimensio]

Within the assertion lies the explanation.

Your "explanation" was a meaningless assertion with no evidence behind it. You offered no examples of fact to support your claim.

Let me put it to you this way: why should I believe what you say about the theory of evolution? What evidence do you have that your assessment of it is correct?

[js1138]

Here's pretty much a complete compilation of your posts on this thread -- the ones that make a specific claim, as opposed to just complaining. I don't see any posts of yours that argue science at all.

The vast majority of evolutionists are atheists. Their ultimate intent is the destruction of Christianity and the culture it gave rise to. Of course there are also a few brainwashed Christians who believe in this evolution nonsense. But anyone who professes to be a Christian and a follower of Darwinism is affected by doublethink, or the concept of holding two contradictory ideas in one's mind and accepting both of them at the same time.

Spontaneous generation it's exactly what evolutionists believe. It's part of their belief of the origin of life. They believe that life happened out of nothing. Nothing from nothing gives you nothing.

But it's a well known fact that Darwin had doubts about evolution as a theory of how life began.

He did not make those claims because he knew nobody would believe him and his evolution theory. So, he conveniently did not make those claims that evolution does not help explain how life began for fear of being labeled a fake, a fraud and a charlatan, which he was, btw.

[Dimensio]

I have named some of these assumptions innumerable times in prior posts. I'm not gonna do the search for you, not at this hour of the night.

Funny, because I've not seen you offer anything but handwaving assertions devoid of any actual evidence or even a single sentence from you that suggests that you have the slightest understanding of what evolution is.

But, I will come back and reiterate all of the assumptions underlying the shaky theory of evolution for the umpteenth time.

I eagerly await your informative post.

[Quark2005]

Of course there are also a few brainwashed Christians who believe in this evolution nonsense.

Who brainwashed the Pope?

[js1138]

Who brainwashed the Pope?

?More importantly, who brainwashed Behe and Denton?

[Baraonda]

"or even a single sentence from you that suggests that you have the slightest understanding of what evolution is."

I can't say what it is, but I can say what adherents to the creed believe it is: evolutionists believe, in fact they insist, that evolution explains the origins of life - in other words, "Your great, great grandpa was once a monkey." I don't believe we originated from monkeys.

Do you believe humans originated from monkeys? Also, do you believe that evoluton is about the origins of life?

[js1138]

I can't say what it is, but I can say what adherents to the creed believe it is: evolutionists believe, in fact they insist, that evolution explains the origins of life - in other words, "Your great, great grandpa was once a monkey." I don't believe we originated from monkeys.

Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?

[Dimensio]

I can't say what it is,

So all you can do is bluster and rant without actually putting together a rational thought. Thought as much.

but I can say what adherents to the creed believe it is: evolutionists believe, in fact they insist, that evolution explains the origins of life

The theory of evolution does not and has never explained the origins of life. You will not find an evolution-accepting poster here on FR who makes such a claim.

in other words, "Your great, great grandpa was once a monkey."

I'm sure that you can cite someone making this claim. I know that I have never made this claim, but surely you didn't just fabricate this account because you don't have any examples of fact to reference. Please cite someone who accepts evolution saying "my great, great grandpa was once a monkey".

I don't believe we originated from monkeys.

Neither do I. Humans didn't "originate" from monkeys. Humans and monkeys share common ancestry, but humans did not originate from monkeys.

Do you believe humans originated from monkeys?

No, and I am not aware of anyone who accepts evolution who does.

Also, do you believe that evoluton is about the origins of life?

No, because it is not. The origin of life is a topic not addressed by the theory of evolution.

[Baraonda]

"Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?"

And that's exactly my point.

Evolutionists insist that the origins of life are a part of the theory of evolution. The origins of life are NOT a part of evolution. They cannot be, as they are a part of God.

I'm glad you agree with me.

[js1138]

Evolutionists insist that the origins of life are a part of the theory of evolution.

Only creationists say the origin of life is part of evolution.

[Baraonda]

>>Do you believe humans originated from monkeys?

>No, and I am not aware of anyone who accepts evolution who does.

Neither do I. We're in agreement here.

>>Also, do you believe that evoluton is about the origins of life?

>No, because it is not. The origin of life is a topic not addressed by the theory of evolution.

We're in agreement here too.

Oftentimes misunderstanding can get in the way, but not this time - we agree.

It takes time to deprogram but eventually 2+2 will make 4.

[Dimensio]

So are you going to support your claim that the theory of evolution is nothing more than speculation?

[Dimensio]

Evolutionists insist that the origins of life are a part of the theory of evolution.

Please cite an "evolutionist insisting that the origins of life are a part of the theory of evolution". Be specific.

[Baraonda]

"Only creationists say the origin of life is part of evolution."

There are some misguided creationists here and there, but the vast majority of creationists believe that God is the source of all things, living or inanimate.

[js1138]

That statement says nothing at all about evolution.

But you are changing the subject. The question is whether the origin of life is part of the subject of evolution, and the answer is and always has been, no.

[RunningWolf]

Well you make this claim

Humans and monkeys share common ancestry.

So what is the common ancestry? Real and specific facts please.

Wolf

[Baraonda]

See how you evolutionists digress?

We were in agreement that evolution is all speculation and a pseudo science. Actually we didn't agree on the pseudo part - only that it is all speculation.

If we're in agreement there isn't much to argue about.

Live and let live!

[Quark2005]

We were in agreement that evolution is all speculation and a pseudo science.

I don't see anyone agreeing with you on that point. In fact, most of us are still waiting for you to point out what is speculative about it.

[Dimensio]

We were in agreement that evolution is all speculation and a pseudo science.

No, we weren't, you shameless liar. I never said that "evolution is all speculation and a pseudo science". I told you that humans didn't "originate" from monkeys and that evolution does not address the origin of life. You are lying about my statements now. You have failed to support your claim that evolution is "all speculation and a pseudo science", and instead are shamelessly lying about my statements. Why do you lie so much?