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'Cannabis' acts as antidepressant
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Posted on 10/13/2005 9:49:35 PM PDT by traumer

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"If an addict is someone who has used a drug in the previous month (a commonly used, if overly broad, definition), then only 5 percent of Americans who have sampled meth would be called addicts, according to the federal government's National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

"That figure is slightly higher than the addiction rate for people who have sampled heroin (3 percent), but it's lower than for crack (8 percent), painkillers (10 percent), marijuana (15 percent) or cigarettes (37 percent)..."

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141 posted on 10/15/2005 3:01:02 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
"[legalizing cannabis] cheapens life for the rest of us."

Hey, screw you. Stop misquoting me.

Our legalizing and condoning drug use such that users are free to "run (themselves) into the ground" cheapens life for the rest of us.

142 posted on 10/15/2005 3:05:18 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Stop misquoting me.

Neither mc6809e nor drlevy88 referred even implicitly to any drug other than the subject of the thread, cannabis.

Our legalizing and condoning drug use such that users are free to "run (themselves) into the ground" cheapens life for the rest of us.

What about our legalizing and condoning poor diet and lack of exercise such that practitioners are free to "run (themselves) into the ground" ... does that also cheapen life for the rest of us?

143 posted on 10/15/2005 3:19:15 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Since you posted that garbage, I assume you believe it to be true. Then why does this chart indicate .3%, not 5%, used meth in the last month? You're only off by a factor of 17!

And who in the world ever said that monthly use defines an addict? Do you believe that also?

Table 1. Percentage of lifetime methamphetamine use among U.S. population by age group, 2002
Age Group Lifetime Past Year Past Month
12–17 1.5% 0.9% 0.3%
18–25 5.7 1.7 0.5
26 and older 5.7 0.4 0.2
Total population 5.3 0.7 0.3
Source: National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

144 posted on 10/15/2005 3:29:18 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
Neither mc6809e nor drlevy88 referred even implicitly to any drug other than the subject of the thread, cannabis.

So the post "Let's see how many conservatives are believers in freedom" was contending that "freedom" means pot usage but not meth?

Uh huh.

145 posted on 10/15/2005 3:32:25 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Know your rights
"Neither mc6809e nor drlevy88 referred even implicitly to any drug other than the subject of the thread, cannabis."

Not the way I read their posts. Hard to believe "freedom" only encompasses pot. You believe that?

"What about our legalizing and condoning poor diet and lack of exercise such that practitioners are free to "run (themselves) into the ground" ... does that also cheapen life for the rest of us?

Is this suddenly a Poor Diet and Exercise thread? You want it to be? Then start your own and get off this one.

Troll.

146 posted on 10/15/2005 3:33:52 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mojave; drlevy88
Well, let's find out.

drlevy88, is your desired freeedom limited to using pot or do you desire the freedom to do all drugs?

147 posted on 10/15/2005 3:39:41 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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Is this suddenly a Poor Diet and Exercise thread?

So you can turn it from a cannabis thread into an all-drug thread, but I can't turn it into an all-self-running-into-the-ground-behaviors thread? Your delusions of mod-hood are amusing.

148 posted on 10/15/2005 3:40:40 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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Then why does this chart indicate .3%, not 5%, used meth in the last month?

The 5% is of those who have tried meth. Learn to read.

And who in the world ever said that monthly use defines an addict?

Beats me; even the guy who cited it agreed it was overly broad. I left that part in only to keep the context without having to paraphrase.

149 posted on 10/15/2005 3:44:02 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
"but I can't turn it into an all-self-running-into-the-ground-behaviors thread?"

Let's ask the moderators, shall we?

150 posted on 10/15/2005 3:44:43 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: traumer

The difference between benefit (decreased depression) and damage (increased anxiety and mental problesm) is dosage and usage patterns - just as with any drug.

Many people who use cannabis do so responsibly and are normal members of society. And many of them are self-medicating for depression - whether or not they realize it.

On the other hand, the real stoners are a problem. But isn't this true of other drugs, including alcohol and prozac (not to mention oxycontin, Rush's drug of choice)?

Most pharmacists would agree: the difference between poison and medicine is often simply DOSAGE.


151 posted on 10/15/2005 3:46:30 PM PDT by Jerez2
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To: robertpaulsen
Feel free.
152 posted on 10/15/2005 3:46:42 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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Is this suddenly a Poor Diet and Exercise thread?

Perhaps he could start a new thread arguing that the Federal Meat Inspection Act is an unconstitutional infringement of the right to serve e. coli infected meat.

153 posted on 10/15/2005 3:48:47 PM PDT by Mojave
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154 posted on 10/15/2005 3:58:58 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: Know your rights
The 5% is of those who have tried meth. Learn to read."

Learn to read? Take your own stupid advice. Where does he say "tried"?

"If an addict is someone who has used a drug in the previous month (a commonly used, if overly broad, definition), then only 5 percent of Americans who have sampled meth would be called addicts."

Your cite is grossly in error and not to be trusted in the slightest. Consequently, you're not to be trusted.

156 posted on 10/15/2005 4:00:13 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights

I did.


157 posted on 10/15/2005 4:00:54 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mojave
"Perhaps he could start a new thread arguing that the Federal Meat Inspection Act is an unconstitutional infringement of the right to serve e. coli infected meat."

Yeah, look for that at your favorite libertarian restaurant.

"Buyer beware! This meat may be infected, and we're proud of that!"

158 posted on 10/15/2005 4:05:03 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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Since you posted that garbage, I assume you believe it to be true.

False logic. One does not have to believe everything they post. However, anything they post is open to discussion. For example. If one says that the sky is blue and cite a source that says the sky is blue and frogs fly, it does not necessarily mean the poster believes that frogs fly, but does open his source up for questions as to the voracity of his source and anything posted on his source.

159 posted on 10/15/2005 4:06:28 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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160 posted on 10/15/2005 4:06:34 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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