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Miers' time on Dallas City Council provides some insight
Dallas Morning News ^ | 10/7/05 | DAVE LEVINTHAL

Posted on 10/06/2005 10:18:56 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky

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To: supercat

If the woman can do the job and qualify same as a man for the physical aspects, no problem. Adjusting height and weight minimums only increases the opportunities for women to compete.


61 posted on 10/06/2005 11:05:44 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: Miklos Szeles
Of course. If of these PC 4#@% idiots ever saw some adult, weighing 275 pounds, half on fire, passed out from smoke, in a building 90 percent engulfed, who TF do you want want in there? A healthy built firefighter, or some damn female who can't drag his ass out of 75 feet of flames?
62 posted on 10/06/2005 11:06:08 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: johnmecainrino

EVENS OUT THE FIELD?

Affirmative action is total, unadultered, leftist garbage.

Whoever is qualified should be the rule. Didn't you even read the posts above about firefighters? You want a tiny little lady trying to do a man's job that requires a man's physical strength and size?

Affirmative action is the very essence of evil discrimination. It discriminates against those who are qualified in favor of those who aren't.


63 posted on 10/06/2005 11:08:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: RTINSC
increases the opportunities for women to compete.

Who cares?

I'm sure there are fembot forums out there for you. We fight over more substansive stuff here dammit...like Coulter's batteries for example

64 posted on 10/06/2005 11:09:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (i'm all outta bot i can't live without you,)
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To: flashbunny

Get over it. I did.


65 posted on 10/06/2005 11:09:41 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Black Tooth

Black Tooth, seem like it's about time to discuss women in combat?


66 posted on 10/06/2005 11:09:46 PM PDT by Miklos Szeles
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To: Black Tooth

By the same reasoning you'd reject the 220 lb man for the 250 lb, and reject the 35 year old man for the 24 year old. When the 24 year old hits 30, dump him. Right.


67 posted on 10/06/2005 11:10:08 PM PDT by BagelFace
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To: Ol' Sparky

68 posted on 10/06/2005 11:10:11 PM PDT by kesg
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To: RTINSC
Why are you so concerned with increasing "opportunities for women to compete" for firefighting positions? Call me crazy, but I'm infinitely more concerned that people be hired that can competently, safely, and efficiently carry out their duties. If a woman can happen to do those things, opportunities won't have to be made. If a woman cannot do those things, the opportunities should be denied.
69 posted on 10/06/2005 11:10:26 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: Miklos Szeles

Read the various article from the ACLJ on Meiers:

http://www.aclj.org/Issues/Resources/Document.aspx?ID=1912


70 posted on 10/06/2005 11:10:35 PM PDT by contramundi
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To: RTINSC

Was it just height and weight requirements or did they also modify the test for women. Like did they decrease the weight of the dummy from say 175 pounds to 100 pounds so more women could pass the test.

I am usually very suspicious of these affirmative action standards. West Point, Air Force Academy and the Naval Academy all modified their physical fitness requirements for women. Men and women do not take the same physical tests.

I am just asking about what was entailed in the fire fighters affirmative action plan for Dallas. I don't know what was involved.


71 posted on 10/06/2005 11:10:49 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: flashbunny
You can support miers all you want. Just don't try to shout down those who question her nomination.

Is that a macro, becaue I've seen you post it about a million times since Monday?

And I'll wait right here while you go find a post where I supported her.

I have said from the very beginning that we need to WAIT to hear what she has to say; evidently you're of the "let's all slit our wrists before we know anything" contingent at FR."

I bet if I could see you, your hair would be on fire.

72 posted on 10/06/2005 11:11:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

No, I was just curious. How somebody hanging out at a conservative site could be in favor of an affirmative action policy that could cost lives - defending it by calling it 'sexist' to have height and weight requirments.

But someone has already affirmed my theory for me.

Thanks for not answering anyway!


73 posted on 10/06/2005 11:11:18 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: Ol' Sparky
Great - SHE knows better than longtime lifesaving professionals what requirements are needed to fight fires and save lives. After all - she's ELECTED to the City Council, and that makes her smarter than everyone else! It's roughly the same as winning the Nobel Prize in Physics, right?

Not only that, she's participated in such essential tasks a MAKING RESOLUTIONS on national and international political situations. She has to do that - since she's ELECTED, she has to give her all-important voice to all matters, great and small, no matter what the jurisdiction!

That's just the kind of gal I want on the Supreme Court, alright!

74 posted on 10/06/2005 11:11:59 PM PDT by Yossarian (Remember: NOT ALL HEART ATTACKS HAVE TRADITIONAL SYMPTOMS)
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To: RTINSC

...and are followed by lowering the performance requirments, because the initial lowering of physical requirements didn't produce the required results.


75 posted on 10/06/2005 11:12:21 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: flashbunny
How somebody hanging out at a conservative site could be in favor of an affirmative action policy that could cost lives

You know, you're getting real good at that, putting words in other people's mouths to suit YOUR agenda.

In fact, you're bordering very close to be an out and out liar.

76 posted on 10/06/2005 11:12:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: flashbunny
I'm watchin' yer back, FB...the Thought Police are posting to you (and we know who they are).

Flashie, honey...you jus' cain't be uppity to Miz H!!!
Lawsie...I been uppity before to Miz H...I was whipped for it!!!
Lawsie, lawsie...if Miz H ain't happy...NOBODY be happy!!!

77 posted on 10/06/2005 11:12:37 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Ol' Sparky

I always said that Bush would promote Liberals to the Scotus. Seems I'm right. Now what? abortion is a sacrement now. We're SO pathetic that we'll lose the entire country before we even consider any restrictions. I give up. Here and now.


78 posted on 10/06/2005 11:12:59 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: flashbunny
If you've been here the whole four days, and you're honest about it, you'll see what kind of kind of personal attacks and liberal tactics have been taking place against anyone who dares question the wisdom of this pick.

And I've seen you give jsut as good as you claim to have gotten.

79 posted on 10/06/2005 11:13:51 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ol' Sparky
Anyone want to claim this isn't yet another red flag?

YUP..I'll claim it.

80 posted on 10/06/2005 11:13:52 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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